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NRA board member chooses guns over love

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  1. Drizzt

    Drizzt Member

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    NRA board member chooses guns over love
    By Rob Jennings, Daily Record

    ROCKAWAY TWP. - In the 1990s, Scott L. Bach was becoming more and more active in the National Rifle Association. His girlfriend, a gun control supporter, was not thrilled.

    So Bach, an attorney, faced a choice - "love or freedom," the 40-year-old attorney recalled on Friday.

    Bach said he picked the latter and stepped up his Second Amendment advocacy. The girlfriend promptly took a hike, but Bach was rewarded last spring by being elected to the NRA's board of directors.

    Bach's rise within the Reston, Va.-based NRA, which opposes gun control legislation, was unlikely on several fronts. Of 76 NRA directors, Bach is the only one from northern New Jersey.

    "I live and work in two of the most liberal, anti-gun states," said Bach, who has a law practice in his native New York City.

    Bach was a relative latecomer to the NRA cause. He said he was elected student government president at Queens College, a bastion of liberal academics. Bach interned in the New York State Senate with Gary Ackerman, who later was elected to Congress and supported gun control legislation.

    "I wasn't necessarily conservative at that point," Bach said of his college days. "I grew up believing everything I heard about the NRA - that these are a bunch of redneck extremists."

    An incident in the township about 10 years ago started his political evolution. Bach said that he and another girlfriend were hiking when an inebriated motorist nearly ran them over, then got out of his car and made verbal threats.

    Bach filed a report with township police, but the motorist was never found. Bach claimed that an officer advised him to consider buying a gun for personal protection.

    "I would be hard-pressed to believe one of our officers would give that kind of advice," Rockaway Township Police Lt. Steve Skrinak said in response.

    "New Jersey has probably the most stringent gun-control laws in the nation."

    But Bach said individuals are obligated to protect themselves if necessary.

    "The police have no legal obligation to come to the aid of any particular citizen," Bach said.

    Sometime after the hiking incident, Bach said he joined a shooting range where NRA membership was a requirement. He began traveling and meeting more of the NRA's 4 million members.

    Bach said he was leery at first, then increasingly impressed with the group's absolutist defense of the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

    Bach stepped up his advocacy. He volunteered as a lawyer on Second Amendment issues and wrote articles, citing studies - disputed by gun-control advocates - that guns in the home reduce crime.

    Eric Howard, a spokesman for Sarah Brady's gun-control group in Washington, countered that the NRA's rhetoric is based on false premises. Howard said more guns do not equal less crime.

    "Jim Brady, President Reagan and a police officer were surrounded by the best-trained men in the world, (who) all had guns on them, yet they were all shot by one man," Howard said, referring to the 1981 assassination attempt by John Hinckley Jr.

    As Bach's NRA advocacy increased, his new girlfriend took note - and was not impressed.

    "I was in love with a woman who had zero tolerance or interest in freedom, firearms and the Second Amendment," Bach said.

    Upon his NRA election in April, Bach joined a director's list that includes noteworthy conservatives such as Oliver North, former U.S. Rep. Bob Barr, a Republican from Georgia, and "Dallas" actress Susan Howard. The directors help set the advocacy organization's policy and goals.

    "I'm not going to sit on the sidelines anymore," Bach said.

    http://www.dailyrecord.com/news/articles/news4-bach.htm
     
  2. Mike Irwin

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    NRA is Reston based?

    I don't think so. But that's a nit.

    I do love stories such as this, though.

    The emergence from ignorance.
     
  3. Chupacabra

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    My ex-girlfriend threatened to break up with me if I didn't get rid of my guns. That is why she is now my ex.

    :D
     
  4. TallPine

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    Cough ... choke ....

    Funny, I hadn't noticed that

    More "middle of the road" or even to the left, IMO

    I haven't heard the NRA lobby for the repeal of any gun control laws.
     
  5. Marko Kloos

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    *snort*

    Absolutist....hee hee hee.

    I'll renew my membership when Chuck Heston or his successor wave an AR with a Beta-C drum and mounted bayonet over their heads, instead of a politically inoffensive blackpowder relic. (Hey, at least they're up to centerfire single-shots now.)
     
  6. El Tejon

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    The duck hunters are "absolutists"???:eek:

    Yeah, right. Maybe when El Tejon is elected their President.:D
     
  7. JohnBT

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    You could always join and vote.

    John
     
  8. Shooter 2.5

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    lendringser,

    The firearm that's usually held over Heston's head is the commorative that's presented to the NRA from some collector or gunsmith and either raffled off or given to one of the members for outstanding works.

    Why don't you donated an engraved and gold inlaid M-16 with a Beta-C drum and then everyone would be happy?
     
  9. Don Gwinn

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    Interesting that this is the direct quote, but they felt the need to change it to a choice between guns or love in the headline. I guess she was 100% right and he just didn't have the love in his heart to see it so that he could do the right thing and give up his principles and way of life in order to be allowed to date her. :rolleyes:

    Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, El-Tee. You don't think maybe the officer advised him to buy a gun legally, do you? And I suppose just because New Jersey is anti-gun, you're confident that you've managed to hire a force with no officers who would dare advise a citizen to take a legal and responsible step to defend himself? Get real.
    I witnessed with my own eyes an off-duty Illinois State Trooper advising my father on firearm issues several years ago. Dad was dismayed that my grandfather, when driving to Texas for the winter, kept a small loaded .32 clipped to the visor in his truck. (This is a felony in Illinois, where the gun must be unloaded and encased.) Dad was really asking the trooper for advice on what he should say to convince grandpa not to break the law.

    The trooper surprised us both. He told dad that if it were his father, he wouldn't let him drive that far without a loaded handgun. Told him to tell grandpa to be contrite, apologetic and thoroughly ignorant of the law if he were stopped, and he'd probably get away with it.

    Now, if we'd asked the director of the state police about the incident, he'd probably deny it too. The trooper told us he would. But common sense should tell us that most police officers know a firearm can be an important thing to have with you when you need it.
     
  10. seeker_two

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    If they had that much of a difference in values in this one area, I'd bet the farm that they had significant differences in other areas too.

    He made the right choice. If they'd married, he'd have been in for a lot of suffering & a messy, expensive divorce.

    Anyone want to introduce him to Tamara?...:evil:
     
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    I don't believe in love without freedom and respect.
     
  12. Oleg Volk

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    Great choice on his part. Dating should be done within our own species...doing sheep is just much too tacky!

    [​IMG]
     
  13. WonderNine

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    I continue to laugh at the connection always made between liberals and gun control. It's the authoritarians, not the liberals who hate guns. Authoritarians are on both sides of the isle.
     
  14. Shooter 2.5

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    The best estimations I can give you are the Republican Pary supports the Second Amendment 80 percent of the time and the dem party only 20 percent of the time.

    After the next election, I think the numbers may increase by ten percent in both parties.

    It's important to keep voting the anti's off the "isle" and not throw away our votes.
     
  15. stevelyn

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    Girlfriends come and go. It's like fishing. Most of the time you "catch and release" because most of the one's you hook into aren't keepers anyway. Mr. Bach released one that he realized just wasn't a keeper. So he threw her back and saved himself lots of money and grief.
    The real trophies are few and far between and none are worth giving up your guns for.:evil:
     
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    Too right, Wondernine. Although one does normally encounter this attitude more often on the Left, it's certainly a both-sides-of-the-aisle phenomenon.

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  17. Nathaniel Firethorn

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    I mailed the author of the article a brief message:
    If anyone else here feels so moved, his address is rjenning@gannett.com .

    - pdmoderator
     
  18. Carlos Cabeza

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    There are a few good men left, just the ones who have very strong personal convictions are few. Good on Mr. Bach.
     
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