NRA form included with Glocks: NRA Pitch Angers 2 L.A. Officials

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Los Angeles;
NRA Pitch Angers 2 L.A. Officials;
Councilmen object to membership appeals in Glock packages at Police Academy gun shop.
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Los Angeles Times_
_September 26, 2003 Friday_ _Home Edition_
When it comes to gun policies, the city of Los Angeles and the National Rifle Assn. could hardly be farther apart. Los Angeles passed one of the nation's first assault weapons bans and has pushed other measures opposing the proliferation of firearms, while the NRA tirelessly defends the right to bear arms.

So two City Council members were outraged to learn that Los Angeles police officers are receiving solicitations to join the NRA when they buy Glock pistols at the city Police Academy's gun shop. The membership pitch is sealed inside the packaging with the gun's warranty and safety information.


"I would like this stopped," said Councilman Jack Weiss.

Officials at Glock said they had meant no harm. The solicitations are included in every Glock package "kind of like an offer to join AAA when you buy your new Ford," said Kevin Connor, the gun maker's lawyer. But Connor said that, if city officials have concerns, Glock will be happy to listen.

A spokesman for the NRA, however, said city officials should "have better things to do than looking into this -- like preventing crime."

"These people must be reading the Communist Manifesto, not the Bill of Rights," said Richard Cabral, NRA field representative for Southern California. "Criminals and crime are the problem, not guns."

The Glocks, lightweight, .40-caliber guns popularized in rap music, became an option for LAPD officers on Aug. 26, when the Police Commission ruled that officers could buy them and use them in place of department-issued Beretta models.

Police Chief William J. Bratton pushed for the Glock's use, saying 70% of police departments nationwide use the weapon, as do the FBI and the Drug Enforcement Administration.

An LAPD officer who bought a Glock and found the NRA solicitation notified the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, according to Luis Tolley, the campaign's director of state legislation. Tolley notified Weiss.

"It makes it appear that this is something that is being sponsored or endorsed by the LAPD," and officers might think they're being encouraged to join the NRA, Tolley said.

This week, Weiss and Councilman Eric Garcetti submitted a motion asking the Police Department to explain how the solicitations had gotten into the packaging.

Assistant Police Chief Jim McDonnell said the LAPD had been unaware that its officers were receiving the solicitations until it had been alerted by the council members' objections. McDonnell said officials would "look at this issue," although he noted that the store, the Los Angeles Police Revolver & Athletic Club, is independent of the department.

The store is run by LAPD officers, and only law enforcement officers may shop there. The shop often heeds department advice. Earlier this year, when the City Council outlawed the sale of .50-caliber firearms to the public, the store stopped selling them at Bratton's request, even though police officers were allowed to buy them elsewhere.

If the police chief advised the club that the NRA solicitation "was not a good idea, we'd be receptive to telling Glock to stop the solicitation," said Jim Voge, an LAPD captain and president of the club.
 
Tha same NRA membership application has been in the last 3 new fireams I bought. No big deal.

More wailing from the Banshee Chorus of Gun Control.
 
An LAPD officer who bought a Glock and found the NRA solicitation notified the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, according to Luis Tolley, the campaign's director of state legislation. Tolley notified Weiss.
 
God forbid somebody make a decision on their own. Geez get over it. My guess is that more than half never even bother to look at the manul and or supporting materials.

B#$@ and moan, B@%@ and moan. I mean the last thing I want is for my local LEOs to take an interest in firearms and become as proficient as they possibly can. :rolleyes:

Sometimes I just want to curl up in the fetal position, rock back and forth, clap my hands over my ears and whisper to myself....."Make the bad people go away, make the bad people go away."

Lord why can't people just shut their pie holes up, get over themselves and live their own lives.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 
Brady bunch may not be telling truth

An LAPD officer who bought a Glock and found the NRA solicitation notified the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, according to Luis Tolley, the campaign's director of state legislation. Tolley notified Weiss.

we have no way to verify this.


merge threads?
 
An LAPD officer who bought a Glock and found the NRA solicitation notified the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, according to Luis Tolley, the campaign's director of state legislation. Tolley notified Weiss.


If an Officer did notify the Brady folks would I be surprised? NO.

A uniform and a badge does not make for a pro gun person. They are many who are just as anti gun as the Brady folks.


That is until they leave the protection of the badge. Turn in your gun at the end of the shift to the armorer and see how they feel then.

Good Shooting
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Here is what I would like to see. I want to see the LA City Council ask Glock to take the application out. I would like to see Glock inform the LA City Police Department that Glock will no longer do business with any LAPD employee (not citizens, just employees in official capacity), nor will they sell any guns to this stupid shooting club. This includes selling magazines, armorers service or anything else. When the LA City Council decides the drop the issue and deal with it, then Glock will resume their business. That is what I would like to see.

Anyone have a link so I can e-mail my opinion to Glock? I mean these guys need to understand that Law Enforcement sales will not keep them afloat forever. I think such a move by a major manufacturer would get a big increase of sales from the private sector like never before.
 
the store, the Los Angeles Police Revolver & Athletic Club, is independent of the department.
The store is run by LAPD officers, and only law enforcement officers may shop there. The shop often heeds department advice. Earlier this year, when the City Council outlawed the sale of .50-caliber firearms to the public, the store stopped selling them at Bratton's request, even though police officers were allowed to buy them elsewhere.

"Independent?"
Stops .50 sales, even though they don't sell to the public and only the public was prohibited? :uhoh:
If the police chief advised the club that the NRA solicitation "was not a good idea, we'd be receptive to telling Glock to stop the solicitation," said Jim Voge, an LAPD captain and president of the club.
If the gun-buying public advised GLOCK that selling firearms to anti-firearms-in-the-hands-of-the-law-abiding-public spouting police departments "was not a good idea, we'd be receptive to telling Glock to stop the solicitation," said Cellar Dweller, a member of the public (but not LA's public) and GLOCK owner.
 
McDonnell said officials would "look at this issue," although he noted that the store, the Los Angeles Police Revolver & Athletic Club, is independent of the department.
At first I thought they were mad about guns sold directly to the city with the NRA ads in them. Stupid but I understand them not wanting it to look like the city is supporting any political group (same reason the feds don't allow servicemen to go to protests or work for a campaign while in uniform). Of course, if that was the situation the easy solution would be opening the boxes and removing the ads before issuing the guns.

However, this is a private business and they are upset :what: . So, the City Councilmen and the police dept are mad that Glock, a private company, is selling guns to this gunstore, a private company, and these gun boxes have, gasp, ads for an organization that is the leader in the field for safety training, and (oh no) advocacy for the industry that the company (Glock) is a part of. Hmm, makes sense.:rolleyes:

What makes me upset is in the beginning of the article where the Glock rep says that this is something they are willing to talk about. The talk should be "it is our product and we'll put any darn (legal) thing in there that we want- you don't like it buy something else". Of course, I'd expect it to be a bit more diplomatic than that but this is what the gist of it should be. However, they might remove the ads?! Anyone out there in gun distribution? Would Glock be able to remove the ads only from those guns going to this shop or to the police dept but not from all their guns or would they have to remove them from all guns? If the latter we really need to get off our duffs and let Glock know how we feel. Can you imagine, with all the Glocks sold to newcomers (thus it is very important that the ads continue) and they'll lose this valuable reminder of an organization that is a great resource all because a couple LA City Councilmen don't like the NRA and want the ads removed. It makes me sick thinking about it.
 
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