(NY) Zoning board declares cease-fire at Friar Tuck

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Zoning board declares cease-fire at Friar Tuck


By William J. Kemble, Correspondent January 09, 2003

CATSKILL - The town Zoning Board of Appeals moved Wednesday to silence the shooting range at the Friar Tuck Inn.

In a 4-0 vote with member Regina Daly absent, the board declared that the recreational use of guns was not a permitted activity for the resort, which is on state Route 32 in Kiskatom. Neighbors of the resort had requested the ruling.

"No one understood how strong that sound is," said Lucia Cipriano, whose parents initiated a petition for a ruling in 1998. "We're more than 1,000 feet from the range and inside our house we could hear it."

She said family members haven't been able to use an outside porch because of the noise. "Even my dog didn't like going back there," she said.

Attorney Lanny Walter, representing the neighbors, said he was relieved by the formal town zoning decision, which followed a series of appearances in court before the town was told it had incorrectly handled complaints from neighbors.

"We're very pleased, but the shooting hasn't stopped," Walter said. "We don't know what they are going to do as far as appealing ... so the whole issue is still an open issue. They may apply to the (town) Planning Board for a special use permit."

Zoning Board of Appeals Chairman Robert Jacobson said the vote means the resort must "cease and desist" shooting range operations.

Walter said a March 31 appearance is scheduled in state Supreme Court on a lawsuit seeking monetary damages from resort owners.

"Regardless of what the future holds, we are going to ask the court to rule that they've created a nuisance and to stop them from proceeding," he said.

Resort owners, who have said the range has been part of the 29.6-acre facility for 20 years, were not available for comment following Wednesday's meeting.

Dick Nelson, a resort consultant, said the ruling would lead to the elimination of up to six jobs associated with the shooting range.

"There will be two full-time employees and three or four part-timers put out of work," he said.


http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=6642897&BRD=1769&PAG=461&dept_id=74969&rfi=8
 
Why did these people build or move into homes that are fairly close to a range in the first place? It's right up there with whining about the airplanes flying over your home, when you built your home close to the airport. :rolleyes:
 
They'll call the cops like any good little socialist Democrat would. Can't be bothered with taking any responsibilty for their own well being, can they? Must leave that up to the Nanny State since they know better than you! </rant-sarcasm OFF>

Damn these people. Being involved with aviation since I was in High School I've dealt with these "move in and complain about everything that was here before us" bozos for 30 years. I've lost track of the number of airports that have been closed or had operations altered because someone was too flipping stupid to notice the AIRCRAFT flying over the house they were planning to buy.

Sorry for the rant. :banghead: :mad:
 
Sell the resort to the Crypts or the Bloods. That should make the locals happy and give them something to do. If they live long enough.
 
The fight over noise at Friar tuck has been going on for a long time. First it was noise, and now the zoning folks are complaining about a land use permit that Friar Tuck was told they did not need years ago.

This might be a long fight. The NYSRPA held its annual meeting there in 2001 and planned on meeting there again in 2003.

MJ
 
Lot's of good memories hunting and hiking with my grandfather around the area.....nothing but woods in those days.........
 
State lawmakers back Friar Tuck

By William J. Kemble, Correspondent February 06, 2003

CATSKILL - Friar Tuck Inn owners have gotten state support for a shooting range that has been closed following years of court battles and zoning challenges.

Letters from state Sen. James Seward on Jan. 29 and state Assemblyman Daniel Hooker on Jan. 27 were reviewed briefly Tuesday during a Town Board meeting, with Town Board members asked to reach a compromise that would allow the use of firearms at the 29.6-acre resort on state Route 32.

"I hope that the town can reach a common sense solution that recognizes the rights of the property owner and accounts for any valid concerns that have been raised," wrote Seward, R-Milford.

"Given the economic impact of the club's activities, New York's struggling economy and the possibilities of job creation in our communities through tourism amenities, it would make sense to achieve an accommodation that permits continuation of the club and its activities," he said.

Hooker, R-Sharon Springs, also said town officials should consider the economic impact.

"If the range is permanently shut down, business will suffer, and the local economy will be further damaged," he wrote.

"The dollars brought into our area by tourists are recycled within our community several times, thus enhancing our mutual prosperity," Hooker said. "Many tourists visit the Friar Tuck specifically because shooting is available. Shooting sports are wholesome, traditional pastimes enjoyed by many fine citizens, including myself, and are a time-honored part of the upstate, rural New York landscape."

The range was silenced by the town Zoning Board of Appeals in a 4-0 vote last month after more than four years of court decisions that ultimately found that officials had mishandled initial requests from resort neighbors that they determine that use of guns was not considered an accessory use for the lodging industry.

"No one understood how strong that sound is," said Lucia Cipriano, whose parents initiated the efforts for a ruling in 1998.

An appeal of the zoning ruling is being prepared, according to Dick Nelson a consultant for the resort.

Meanwhile, a suit in state Supreme Court filed by Peitro Cipriano, Lucia Cipriano's father, against the resort because of the noise is scheduled for trial 11 a.m. March 24.

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=6952121&BRD=1769&PAG=461&dept_id=74969&rfi=8
 
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