Obama asks gun questions on his application for employment.

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Firearms ownership NEVER came up on my background investigation until we got to talking about hobbies. My investigator was a very pro-gun and apparantly it didn't adversly affect any job opportunities
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To be honest, I don't think you ever applied to be Secretary of State either, since this vetting process of questions is designed for senior administration personal and is just one part of the process. The top secret access questions themselves number closer to over a thousand. You not expected to pass everything with clear answers either. I am quite sure they make a difference between "I once called the president an idiot" to "I murdered and ate 14 children." It to provide measures ahead of time so you don't say appoint someone who only experience is to run horse shows to the head of FEMA.

What shocked me is how short the questionnaire is.
 
Honestly, all the hellfire any potential Obama employee (or any presidential appointed employee) is going to get, Obama has to know everything about them just to avoid a "GOTCHA!"
 
Here's the CNN story on the forms. My guess is that if you are the kind of person they are looking for, you have already arranged to get one of these forms. These are political appointment jobs.
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I'm applying for the ambassador to Vulcan.
 
Honestly, all the hellfire any potential Obama employee (or any presidential appointed employee) is going to get, Obama has to know everything about them just to avoid a "GOTCHA!"
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And since the Feds may be dragged into the battles over the DC City Council's intransigence vis-a-vis Heller, the last thing Obama wants to find in the Washington Post on Sunday morning is a headline the member of his administration delegated to deal with that issue has a technically illegal handgun. :)

Mike
 
To be honest, I don't think you ever applied to be Secretary of State either, since this vetting process of questions is designed for senior administration personal and is just one part of the process.
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No, but I've traveled to fun and exciting places with some of them (and their boss and their fellow Cabinet members), um, a few times.

I guess I object to the wordsmithing of the question, in that it doesn't just ask the pertinent questions ('have you failed to renew your IL registration') but asks about the applicants firearms ownership in general.

Say what you want, but words DO in fact matter (especially in DC) and the words that are chosen often reveal the attitudes of the writer.
 
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I guess I object to the wordsmithing of the question, in that it doesn't just ask the pertinent questions ('have you failed to renew your IL registration') but asks about the applicants firearms ownership in general.
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Uhm, so they should have a different application for every jurisdiction in the US so they can ask the "pertinent" question?

The first question is to allow folks to skip the rest - "If you don't own a gun, skip to next part."

Mike
 
Which would have just as easily be accomplished by asking, 'Have you ever failed to register or re-register a firearm in any jurisdiction that requires it, or otherwise failed to carry or store any firearms in contradition of Federal, state, or local regulations?"

Asking for complete ownership information is absurd, and it's cultural trolling.
 
I didn't like the question either, but really with all the flack any president gets now a days would you expect to see anything different?

To be honest, I'm surprised it's not more pages.
 
Asking for complete ownership information is absurd, and it's cultural trolling.
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Actually, the notion that there is a cultural war in the US is a distinctive right wing talk show phenomenon. Most folks who don't worship at the EIB shrine don't think we're in a culture war. Whatever else we disagree on, I think that we can both absolutely agree that Obama is not a right wing talk show host? :)

I think that Obama is a very careful, very prudent man. He is a methodical chess player from what I can tell. Clinton was brilliant politician - but really of the old southern rascal variety. I can imagine that sitting around with a bottle of Jack Daniels listening to Clinton tell stories about Arkansas politics would be a blast. That's not Obama - he is chess player who wants to be blindsided by absolutely nothing in his appointee's background.

Mike
 
I was filling out the online version of this form and when I got to #10 and
entered "Thin Black Line" for the alias on the Internet, it locked up and
I got an immediate email to every account saying "Application Denied".....
 
That's starnge, I would assume these would be some type of GS/SES jobs.

I assumed they already had a very detailed and thourgh hiring process for these types of jobs already.

Never recall seeing these questions for a GS job. It is certainly not the form/computer program used for security clearences either.
 
Give me a break

Give me a break:banghead: what would you expect from this :cuss: president to be?
Then again, this president is not even qualified to get secrete clearance for a gvmt job. and he's the president. What a joke:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
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That's starnge, I would assume these would be some type of GS/SES jobs.
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No these are specifically for the non-GS type jobs. I think they call these the "Plum Book" jobs. They are political appointments.

Mike
 
I've got lots of un-registered firearms here in PA... :D

PA-18
§6111.4. Registration of Firearms.

Notwithstanding any section of this chapter to the contrary, nothing in this chapter shall be construed to allow any government or law enforcement agency or any agent thereof to create, maintain or operate any registry of firearm ownership within this Commonwealth. For the purposes of this section only, the term “firearm” shall include any weapon that is designed to or may readily be converted to expel any projectile by the action of an explosive or the frame or receiver of any such weapon.
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Then again, this president is not even qualified to get secrete clearance for a gvmt job.
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As the Commander-in-Chief, doesn't he have the power to make the qualifications for any DOD clearance whatever he wants?

There is a real point here - we elect the Command-in-Chief. They only clearance he needs is the will of the people as expressed through the ballot box (mediate by the Electoral College).

The fact that we have civilian control of the military is a good thing, an American thing.

Mike
 
Just to point out how absurd this question is, let's replace one of the nouns and see what happens...

Do you or any members of your family own a car? If so, provide complete ownership and vehicle registration information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage.

The funny thing is, more people die and more stuff gets broken from auto accidents every year than firearm accidents BY FAR, not to mention how illegal drunk driving is but how many people either do it or have in the past, and yet once again, we're get stuck completely ignoring the rampant issues because they aren't nearly as politically exciting or (fulfilling apparently) as seeing just how much one can get away with using the bill of rights as a piece of toilet paper.

He's not even in office yet and already he's raising my blood pressure to unreasonable levels...
 
I wonder if I need to submit a picture of all the havoc I've been responsible for because of my shooting?
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If the media can get ahold of it in the next 4 (or 8 :) ) years, Obama or his staff probably want to know about it right now. The man does not want to be blind-sided.

Mike
 
Do you or any members of your family own a car? ... and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage.
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And that's a good analogy because the media got as much mileage out of Dick Cheney shooting his friend as they would have out of a fender bender?

And this administration is as likely to be pulled into the fray because the DC City Council is recalcitrant about the recent Supreme Court decision about the right of the residents of DC to keep and bear cars.

Good analogy, go the the head of the class. :)

Mike
 
And that's a good analogy because the media got as much mileage out of Dick Cheney shooting his friend as they would have out of a fender bender?
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Imagine if instead of shooting his friend he ran him over, and if that's not spicy enough, let's say it was while driving under the influence. Either way they would have had a picnic with it, although I'm sure they preferred talking about how Cheney's shotgun is evil and makes him do bad things.
 
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