Odd thing with new Springer Loaded

[tc300mag1]

Picked up my Springer loaded yesterday pulled it apart to clean today and run into a odd thing..

Now This isnt my first 1911 and i dont rember having this problem on my uncles Trp he just bought few months ago.

When i try to take barrel out of the slide it is pretty hard to get out and i mean really hard it binds up where the barrel swells up at the chamber/hood area it binds of course where this area goes into the slide.

I can get the barrel in/out but its tight never had one this tight is this normal on new springers i dont think it is but thought i would ask..

Let me know what ya think and weather i should worry about it or not.

If i have to send back to springer i will but dont want to as i will be out of town for 3 weeks.

 

[denfoote]

Do you still have that stupid full length guide rod?? You have to undo that little gagdet first!! The pistol will not come apart until you do!! After you get apart, I would change it out for stock 1911A1 guide rod and spring!!

 

[George Hill]

Yeah, I've had that on a couple Springers. Maybe it wasn't tight, but it was snug.

 

[tc300mag1]

Yeah i had all that apart and slide off the frame if ya read what i was saying so of course i had the guide rod out

 

[1911Tuner]

It's Tight!

Howdy tc300,

More than likely, the tight spot is at the sides of the lower barrel lug. Get a smooth-cut mill file and take a light stroke or two on both sides of the lug and try again. Be careful not to let the sharp edges of the file cut into the filleted junction of the lug and the barrel...Study that area for a minute and you'll see what I mean.
It's not a sharp corner there...but blends smoothly. Go slow, and be careful to keep the file perfectly flat on the sides of the lug. Try to take an equal amount off both sides. Use a blue magic marker to color the sides of the lug after each cut
so you can see the areas of contact. Remove no more than is necessary to let the barrel come through the slide easily. When you get it where you want it,
lightly break any sharp corners left on the back of the lug.

Hope this squashes your bug. Luck!

Tuner

 

[Old Fuff]

If I understand correctly, the slide assembly has been removed from the frame. If the barrel was binding on the lower lug - as it might well be doing - this shouldn't matter when one is trying to remove the barrel from the slide. I would sooner suspect a bind on the sides of the hood, vs. the slide.

Tuner is "right on" about using a magic marker to color suspected tight places and then looking to see if the ink is rubbed off. However, don't remove any metal until you are sure where the bind is coming from. Unfortunately today's makers don't understand the difference between a "target pistol fit" vs. a "combat pistol fit." They are different.

One other possibility is binding between the barrel and barrel bushing, but I doubt it. One clue: Does the barrel bind up a badly when its only in the slide assembly as it does when the pistol is fully assembled?

 

[1911Tuner]

It's Tight!

Hey hey Fuff!

Bring the barrel out of a slide, and look right the parallel sides right at the top of the recoil plug housing as the barrel comes out. If the lower lug is just a little too wide, it'll bind at that point. Think about havin' a link pin that's stickin' out of one side of the lug a little....and that's how it binds. I've run into that with a few Springfields, and it turned out to be the tolerances on the width of the lower lug were on the high side. Removing about .001 inch per side cured it. One stainless Springfield "Drop-In" service barrel I had was .005 inch wider than max.

Cheers!

Tuner

 

[Old Fuff]

Now that's one I never thought of. Seems nobody looks at blueprints anymore.

But then, I haven't had to occasion to see that many new Springers.

 

[tc300mag1]

Ill have to take it apart again next week it only binds up once you get tothe chamber/hood area at the ver front of the slide...

With pistol together for normal use its fine its just when your trying to remove the barrel binds up in the slide right at the very end Bad enough on hand is on the slide one on the brarrel and a lot of pulling and is need to get it out.

To put it back in it slides in about 3/8 of a inch then i have to hold slide in left hand and tap front of barrel with my pal to get it to go back in slide once it clears the end of the slide it frees right up hard to describe if i get motivted today ill try and nab pics or it

 

[1911Tuner]

Blueprints

Now that's one I never thought of. Seems nobody looks at blueprints anymore.

But then, I haven't had to occasion to see that many new Springers.

Oh, they look at'em...They just don't seem to be too concerned at stickin' to'em.

The problem is one that I've noticed just recently...maybe in the last year or two,
and interestingly enough, it's been mainly in either loaded models and stainless
(standard) mil-specs. The GI mil-specs haven't had a clearance issue there that I've seen. In the dozen or so that have showed up with this particular bug,
smoothing out any toolmarks has usually been all that was needed...or just a little more...so it could be just a matter of dull tooling, and either QA was asleep at the helm, or the assemblers just forced the barrels in and kept on truckin'.

Not a major issue...but still a bit of an aggravation. 5-minute cure.