OEM Mag Extension for a 20 Gauge Remington 870

[Aeromarine]

Most of us know that Remington restricts the sale of 2 and 3 shot magazine extension to government and law enforcement agencies, a fact that is rather odd since they also sell various HD models to the general public that have that equipment already installed. Still, it is common to find used OEM 12 gauge mag extensions for sale from various sources even if not directly from Remington.

I'm looking for a both the 2 and 3 shot mag extensions for a lightweight 20 gauge 870/1100. Choate makes such an animal but I would prefer to get ones that are Remington OEM. Has anybody seen a source for those? Alternatively, does anyone have the Official Remington Stock Numbers for those parts? Any help would be gratefully appreciated!

Thanks,
Aeromarine

 

[JNewell]

Like many other things that most of the people on the internet know, this is not correct. Very quick searches on MidwayUSA and Brownells turn up 2- and 3- shot Remington factory mag tube extensions in blued and parkerized finish, only a couple of clicks away from your mailbox. I did not see the 20 gauge factory extensions, but since the 12 gauge versions are readily available directly to consumers, I'd bet that a little searching would turn them up.

OEM Mag Extension for a 20 Gauge Remington 870

Most of us know that Remington restricts the sale of 2 and 3 shot magazine extension to government and law enforcement agencies, a fact that is rather odd since they also sell various HD models to the general public that have that equipment already installed. Still, it is common to find used OEM 12 gauge mag extensions for sale from various sources even if not directly from Remington.

I'm looking for a both the 2 and 3 shot mag extensions for a lightweight 20 gauge 870/1100. Choate makes such an animal but I would prefer to get ones that are Remington OEM. Has anybody seen a source for those? Alternatively, does anyone have the Official Remington Stock Numbers for those parts? Any help would be gratefully appreciated!

 

[oneounceload]

How do you know that Choate isn't the OEM for Remington the way that Mec-Gar is in pistol mags or Briley is for choke tubes?

 

[Aeromarine]

It's simply a matter of aesthetics and personnel preference. I do not like the look of the Choate tubes. I agree the Mec-Gar makes great mags both under their own name and for many gun manufacturers as original equipment. But the Choate tubes are of an entirely different design. I have used Tac-Star and find them to be okay. I say this based on over thirty years of experience with have owned and worked on a couple of dozen different 870s, 1100s, and 11-87s.

And I take great exception to the suggestion that Remington does not to restrict this item to non-LEO buyers. Typically, this item is priced at between $69.99 and $79.99. Some do make it out into the broader distribution channel but that's why Midway and Brownells sells them for closer to $120.00 which represents more of a gray market price. But that's why I was trying to get the 20 gauge part number because I know some distributors are probably willing to sell them at the right price. My question was simple enough. I was simply looking for a straight answer and not a lot of other advice on topics I wasn't asking about. But thanks for the help anyway!

However,

 

[Aeromarine]

Also, I forgot to mention. I have had high level business dealings in the past with Cerberus which owns Remington, Bushmaster, Marlin, H&R plus a couple of other gun companies. So I may be able to get the parts I want on a "friends and family" basis it I can quote the right stock number.

 

[JNewell]

Also, I forgot to mention. I have had high level business dealings in the past with Cerberus which owns Remington, Bushmaster, Marlin, H&R plus a couple of other gun companies. So I may be able to get the parts I want on a "friends and family" basis it I can quote the right stock number.

Their record with their investments, and the future of the products, plants and employees, are open to debate. I'm not sure I'd be bragging about inside connections with them. With respect to this:

It's simply a matter of aesthetics and personnel preference. I do not like the look of the Choate tubes. I agree the Mec-Gar makes great mags both under their own name and for many gun manufacturers as original equipment. But the Choate tubes are of an entirely different design. I have used Tac-Star and find them to be okay. I say this based on over thirty years of experience with have owned and worked on a couple of dozen different 870s, 1100s, and 11-87s.

And I take great exception to the suggestion that Remington does not to restrict this item to non-LEO buyers. Typically, this item is priced at between $69.99 and $79.99. Some do make it out into the broader distribution channel but that's why Midway and Brownells sells them for closer to $120.00 which represents more of a gray market price. But that's why I was trying to get the 20 gauge part number because I know some distributors are probably willing to sell them at the right price. My question was simple enough. I was simply looking for a straight answer and not a lot of other advice on topics I wasn't asking about. But thanks for the help anyway!

However,

You said:

And I take great exception to the suggestion that Remington does not to restrict this item to non-LEO buyers.

and

Most of us know that Remington restricts the sale of 2 and 3 shot magazine extension to government and law enforcement agencies,

You're welcome to take great exception, but unless the plain meaning of English has changed since I went to school, the sale of these parts is not "restricted" to agency purchasers. If I were you, I'd call Remington customer service and just ask for the part number.

 

[dfariswheel]

How do you know that Choate isn't the OEM for Remington

Because the Choate and Remington factory extensions are totally different designs.

 

[riomedinamike]

I've done a long search for an extension other than Choate - and it isn't as easy as some suggest. I've been looking since I bought several 20 ga 870's several years ago for my wife and daughters as home defense weapons.

Tacstar - 12 ga only; Vang Comp - 12 ga only; Nordic Components - 12 ga only.

I did check the Wilson/Scattergun Technologies website under shotgun accessories, and they sell a 1 and 2 rd extension for the 20 gauge. I have used their products in the past and they are first rate.

I haven't had any luck finding a factory Remington extension, but as far as quality goes, the Scattergun Tech products are as good or better than Remington.

You might also consider adding a 4 round 20 gauge sidesaddle for extra ammo on board the shotgun.

 

[Aeromarine]

Thanks for the suggestion about Wilson, Riomedinamike. I will look into that. However, if I remember correctly the Wilson tubes do not come with barrel clamps, which I consider to be essential, and the 12 gauge after market clamps from Uncle Mikes and others wouldn't be the correct diameter. Still, I guess I could use a Choate clamp in a pinch. Anyway, that's one of the reasons I've been looking for an OEM Remington 20 gauge unit.

As for you, JNewell, I was looking for constructive help on a couple of very direct and straight forward questions. Your sarcasm is not appreciated and it is neither helpful nor entertaining. By the way in the past I had checked with Remington in both Madison, NC and Ilion, NY and can confirm it is their corporate policy is not to sell mag extensions direct to the public other than for orders on a police or government agency letterhead. That policy began back in 1994 with the AWB. I also confirmed this policy with some of the largest middle channel gun distributors in the country including Camfour and Interstate. But if you know of a source that will sell me a Remington OEM 20 gauge 2 or 3 round mag extension (blued or parkerized) please let me know. Otherwise, please hold you peace.

 

[JNewell]

Thanks for the suggestion about Wilson, Riomedinamike. I will look into that. However, if I remember correctly the Wilson tubes do not come with barrel clamps, which I consider to be essential, and the 12 gauge after market clamps from Uncle Mikes and others wouldn't be the correct diameter. Still, I guess I could use a Choate clamp in a pinch. Anyway, that's one of the reasons I've been looking for an OEM Remington 20 gauge unit.

As for you, JNewell, I was looking for constructive help on a couple of very direct and straight forward questions. Your sarcasm is not appreciated and it is neither helpful nor entertaining. By the way in the past I had checked with Remington in both Madison, NC and Ilion, NY and can confirm it is their corporate policy is not to sell mag extensions direct to the public other than for orders on a police or government agency letterhead. That policy began back in 1994 with the AWB. I also confirmed this policy with some of the largest middle channel gun distributors in the country including Camfour and Interstate. But if you know of a source that will sell me a Remington OEM 20 gauge 2 or 3 round mag extension (blued or parkerized) please let me know. Otherwise, please hold you peace.

I will consider myself well and truly rebuked. I will tell you that if the Remington extension in 20 gauge isn't already on its way to you, you haven't tried hard enough. It is not impossible for ordinary consumers to obtain, and you don't need to "have had high level business dealings in the past with Cerberus which owns Remington, Bushmaster, Marlin, H&R plus a couple of other gun companies" or try "to get the parts I want on a "friends and family" basis it I can quote the right stock number" to make this work - and you don't need to have agency contacts or make any sort of misrepresentations or mislead anyone. They're out there for the buying.

 

[50caliber123]

Anyone know if the Wilson/scattergun tech 20ga mag extensions fit the 20ga pardner pump? I know from first-hand experience that the mag tube caps made by remington do not fit.

 

[wideym]

A year ago I called Remington to order a 12guage tube extention and was told that they aren't selling them as they need them for guns they are producing. I used to go only for the factory extentions, but I've tried the Choate extention and love it.

Everything you would need comes in the package: orange follower, new spring, tube, and barrel clamp with sling swivel. All at a reasonable price and Choate tubes hold one more round than a factory tube of the same size.

 

[Blackhawk30]

Sounds like Remington doesn't make extensions for a 20 gauge.Not suprising,most accessories seem to be made for 12 gauges.

 

[Kernel]

I have the Choate 3-rd for my 20 ga 870. Came with the clamp, spring, and follower. Looks good. Works perfect. $45 from Brownells.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=46487/pid=4203/sku/20_Ga_Blue_Mag_Ext__3_Rds_fit_Remington__B_

 

[cpileri]

I am going to start following this thread since i once awhile back, looked for a FACTORY 20ga mag tube extension for an 870 and couldn't find any.
Factory 12ga extensions are around, but never did see a 20ga.
C-

 

[Aeromarine]

They are definitely around. I've see them on new Remington Model 870 Express 20 gauge "home defense" shotguns that are released periodically through the distribution channel with synthetic stocks and the narrow diameter (for the smaller light weight frame) mag extensions. I've held them in my hands so I know they exist. Also, I just missed out on buying one that was being sold on the Equipment Exchange of AR-15.com. It was clear from the photo that it was a 20 gauge tube and it was Remington OEM. So keep you eye out!

 

[Aeromarine]

Kernel and Wideym - Thanks for pointing out the Choate option. I've known about them but my personal preferences are for a Remington OEM..... if I can find the darn things! I do like some Choate products. I got a 1" stock extension butt plate for my AR-15 and think it's great!

 

[grz88]

Aeromarine- On Remington's part list they have a "Magazine Ext. Tube Coupling Matte Finish 20 Ga" listed as part number F400424. Not sure if that is just the coupling component or if the tube extension is attached. Currently waiting for a response from Remington, as I'm looking to do the same thing to my 870 Youth.
I'll keep you posted.

 

[JNewell]

Hint: F400683 !

BTW, someone ought to call Nordic and find out whether they would sell a 20 ga tube that was shorter than what's listed on their website. IMO/YMMV, the Nordic extensions are far nicer than the Remington factory extension.

 

[Quadkid]

I gotta say, I just got a Choate extension in today for my 12ga 870 and it's more stout than I thought it would be. Was expecting something dinky due to the price, but i could probably knock a cat out with it.

 

[Aeromarine]

GRZ88,

Thanks for the lead on the Rem part number! I will also check out Nordic. I had never heard of them before.

One piece mag ext tubes like Choate and Tac Star may have an advantage. I have sometimes found after reassembling my 12 gauge 3+ Remington extension that shells will bind. Of course the coupling has to be snuggly tight. However, the problem seems to be caused by overtightening the extension tube into the coupling. Unfortunately, that's likely to occur when you have just cleaned the gun. So you will not know you are going to get a hang-up until you try to shoot the next time out which is a very bad situation for a HD shotgun. Therefore, I make it a point to cycle shells through the mag every time my gun is broken down and reassembled. Has anyone else experienced this problem?

 

[grz88]

JNewell-Is that Remington's part number for the tube? I wasn't able to find it on the parts list.
After reading Aeromarine's post, I'm assuming that the coupler and the tube are sold separately. Still waiting on Remington's reply. A one piece system does sound more reliable, though. Now I only need to find Nordic's website...

 

[JNewell]

I believe that the number I posted is the separate part # for the tube. I wrote down the two part numbers posted in this thread but didn't note which was which, but process of elimination strongly suggests that this is the tube's p/n. The complete parts inventory would be, I guess, tube, coupling, clamp, clamp screw, and spring. Springs are plentiful (many sources) and clamps are also available from many manufacturers. Actually, as I type that, I am remembering that we're talking 20 gauge, so ordering the clamp and screw from Remington might be prudent or necessary.

Nordic is well known in the three-gun area, not so much in the "tactical" area. Nice quality stuff. The most recent extensions they've shipped also do not have the "billboard" logo painted (?) on, which is a plus.

I am a little hazy on this but I think the problem AM is describing is actually the subject of a warning in the instruction sheet that Remington delivers with the extension kits and shotguns that have the parts installed from the factory.

My personal favorites in steel are the Vang and SGT/WC extensions, but they don't speak 20. The Remington (which I have one of) always struck me as somewhat cheap and fragile. I recently put a Nordic on a Benelli and am very impressed. It's very high quality - fwiw, it's aluminum, which has advantages and disadvantages.

I'd be interested in hearing from AM whether the hang-ups he's had were only with the Remington extension? I think the Remington extension is definitely a little more "wobbly" on the tube than I've experienced with VC, SGT or Nordic, and I've never personally had that issue with those, and I crank them all down hard (no clamp).