As I stated in my earlier post, I would have engaged the kids to try and teach them on a few pistols they were looking at. However, I was busy filling out the paperwork and the store was closing in 20 minutes. I agree, there are no stupid questions. I wish the clerk would have tried to help them when I couldn't.
Oh Lord, kids at the gun store.....
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As I stated in my earlier post, I would have engaged the kids to try and teach them on a few pistols they were looking at. However, I was busy filling out the paperwork and the store was closing in 20 minutes. I agree, there are no stupid questions. I wish the clerk would have tried to help them when I couldn't.
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"Good luck finding some...most around here are too concerned about being a white "gansta" or thug. Some, just by looking, don't need to be around guns or educated on them."
Interesting opinion on a pro gun forum.
Interesting opinion on a pro gun forum.
30mag
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I went to academy the other day, and some middle-aged man was buying his mother a handgun. She was probably 75?
I'm 18, and I could tell this guy didn't know anything. I was tipped off when he turned down a S&W Sigma because it was cheap.
The guy recognized the brand name and felt it out... with horrible trigger discipline. He put it back, and asked the salesman why it was cheap.. of course, the salesman replied, "It's not as high quality as some of Smith and Wesson's other firearms." (an absolutely true statement) This guy took that to mean that it was unreliable.
The most important part of their firearm purchase was whether or not she could rack the slide.. And she was doing it with two fingers, and holding the gun away from her like she was scared of it.
I waited for the salesman to say something.. but nothing.
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I regret not trying to help. The lady needed a revolver, or at least a lesson on how to rack a slide properly.
There's no doubt in my mind they were buying it for HD.
It's hard being a 'kid' who likes guns.
Especially when I run out of 9mm ammo...
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I never interfere in those situations. Keep in mind that sonny is arranging for the gun (at granny's expense), selecting the gun, and probably will be the only one who remembers the gun even exists (and where) when she ships off to Birchwoods Sunset Resort.
An honest gun sometimes can take a few wrong turns not of its own making.
An honest gun sometimes can take a few wrong turns not of its own making.
ezypikns
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Dude!!!!
Excuse me. I believe "Deagle" refers to the firearm itself, but what in the world is "triple wield"?
Whatever it is, I'll bet accuracy has no place in it.
Excuse me. I believe "Deagle" refers to the firearm itself, but what in the world is "triple wield"?
Whatever it is, I'll bet accuracy has no place in it.
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Just try to remember fellas, there's no such thing as a stupid question.
He sounds like one helluva guy. This was exactly what I saw when I walked into a small shop here in OC. I saw two lanky kids, obviously brothers, standing against the wall with their hands in their pockets, looking at all the guns behind the counter. The kids stood far away as to no get in the way of the patrons. The gunshop owner seemed to not notice them. I just thought they were the owners kids or nephews or something.
Then an old man came walking in and started to scold the kids for bothering the owner while the kids vehemently disagreed. Apparently the old man was a shop owner just a few doors down and the kids were his and they loved coming over and seeing all the guns. The gunshop owner, with a smile and a calm voice, told the old man, "Sir, they're no trouble at all. They're welcome anytime." The old man acknowledged with a quick nod of appreciation and tried not to show it to the kids and rushed them out the door.
He sounds like one helluva guy. This was exactly what I saw when I walked into a small shop here in OC. I saw two lanky kids, obviously brothers, standing against the wall with their hands in their pockets, looking at all the guns behind the counter. The kids stood far away as to no get in the way of the patrons. The gunshop owner seemed to not notice them. I just thought they were the owners kids or nephews or something.
Then an old man came walking in and started to scold the kids for bothering the owner while the kids vehemently disagreed. Apparently the old man was a shop owner just a few doors down and the kids were his and they loved coming over and seeing all the guns. The gunshop owner, with a smile and a calm voice, told the old man, "Sir, they're no trouble at all. They're welcome anytime." The old man acknowledged with a quick nod of appreciation and tried not to show it to the kids and rushed them out the door.
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It was some dude not knowing *** he was talking about, something I seem to run into often at the large stores like Cabela's. Which, I don't buy from, I just handle things extensively then order from my local FFL.
I had a third army surgically implanted in the middle of my chest so I can use three guns at once.
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Keep in mind, what's "sexy" is almost always going to attract someone new to a sport or industry.
After my first season of playing soccer, I had to get the best shoes. I didn't "need" them, but at the time, I sure thought I did. It wasn't until later that I found the best shoes for me were actually something else.
Same goes for cars, guns, computers, or just about anything else. When someone doesn't know better, they want what is "sexy" because the perception is that is what is used by the best, and a newbie is often eager to try and become the best. For more information about the science of training, check out a program called Situational Leadship II by Ken Blanchard.
As for video games, and the benefits they have.... Well it's been studied by psychologists that most humans can track 1 to 2 objects effectively. Due to sensory overload, our brains naturally "screen out" all other objects not related to the object of our focus. This is why Magicians can use slight of hand right in front of someone to make something vanish. In fact our focus on singular objects is so acute that a professor was able to change words within sentences above or below the one being read on a computer screen right in front of the person reading it, without that person realizing there were changes being made.
The other annoying thing our brains tend to do, is fill in information that might not actually be there.
Taht is waht alolws msot of us to be albe to raed, fialry esaily, snetneces lkie tihs wihle olny hvanig the frsit and lsat ltetres in palce.
Through moderate training however, humans can push this level of tracking up to around 3 or 4 objects actively AND accurately, and increase our perception of peripheral objects upwards to 20 items. Computer games, especially ones such as FPSs or where a decent pace of action is present in conjunction with multiple sources of data(overhead maps, ammo counts, health bars, targeting information,mission objective blurbs and other HUD data displays), actually provide the type of training required to increase this conciousness.
They literally can train a person to be more perceptive. But no, video games alone are not going to be a substitue for tactical training. They can teach a skill, one of many skills required for any fast paced endeavor be it combat or sports, or flying or what have you.
After my first season of playing soccer, I had to get the best shoes. I didn't "need" them, but at the time, I sure thought I did. It wasn't until later that I found the best shoes for me were actually something else.
Same goes for cars, guns, computers, or just about anything else. When someone doesn't know better, they want what is "sexy" because the perception is that is what is used by the best, and a newbie is often eager to try and become the best. For more information about the science of training, check out a program called Situational Leadship II by Ken Blanchard.
As for video games, and the benefits they have.... Well it's been studied by psychologists that most humans can track 1 to 2 objects effectively. Due to sensory overload, our brains naturally "screen out" all other objects not related to the object of our focus. This is why Magicians can use slight of hand right in front of someone to make something vanish. In fact our focus on singular objects is so acute that a professor was able to change words within sentences above or below the one being read on a computer screen right in front of the person reading it, without that person realizing there were changes being made.
The other annoying thing our brains tend to do, is fill in information that might not actually be there.
Taht is waht alolws msot of us to be albe to raed, fialry esaily, snetneces lkie tihs wihle olny hvanig the frsit and lsat ltetres in palce.
Through moderate training however, humans can push this level of tracking up to around 3 or 4 objects actively AND accurately, and increase our perception of peripheral objects upwards to 20 items. Computer games, especially ones such as FPSs or where a decent pace of action is present in conjunction with multiple sources of data(overhead maps, ammo counts, health bars, targeting information,mission objective blurbs and other HUD data displays), actually provide the type of training required to increase this conciousness.
They literally can train a person to be more perceptive. But no, video games alone are not going to be a substitue for tactical training. They can teach a skill, one of many skills required for any fast paced endeavor be it combat or sports, or flying or what have you.
Gunnerpalace
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Well, if he wants consolation you could tell him the Croatian police use them,
I'm a gamer, long time, and from Xbox live I can tell that quite a few people either don't have experience or are owners themselves.
ezenbrowntown
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Kids are just that...........kids. They're less informed versions of some of us. Who hasn't been in awe of some new handgun/rifle/shotgun? We all have. They just react the way kids react. I remember being fascinated with the Desert Eagle .50 in my teenage years, swearing one day I'd get one. Needless to say, it currently isn't high up on my purchasing list these days.
The guys don't need a lecture or a stern talking to, we should be glad they are interested in guns. Why not stir their interest with proper direction rather than bash their childhood ideas. They can't own any of those handguns they mentioned for at least another 5 or 6 years, and that's if they are in a financial position to purchase at that point.
As a member of the generation that grew up on video games, I wouldn't worry too much about the video game gun "sensationalism". It's just like a young kid at a gun show, in awe of the black rifles like he saw on T.V. Let them hang on to their visions of granduer as long as they can, they'll have their chance at the responsibilities of adulthood before too long anyhow.
The guys don't need a lecture or a stern talking to, we should be glad they are interested in guns. Why not stir their interest with proper direction rather than bash their childhood ideas. They can't own any of those handguns they mentioned for at least another 5 or 6 years, and that's if they are in a financial position to purchase at that point.
As a member of the generation that grew up on video games, I wouldn't worry too much about the video game gun "sensationalism". It's just like a young kid at a gun show, in awe of the black rifles like he saw on T.V. Let them hang on to their visions of granduer as long as they can, they'll have their chance at the responsibilities of adulthood before too long anyhow.
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I was hooked on Counter Strike years ago and recently found out that all those guns were real hahaha. From the ridiculous looking P90 and Steyr Aug to the 20 shot FiveseveN.
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