Oh the irony! Jericho convention will be gun-free

[Intrepid Dad]

I had to laugh when I read this. My favorite show on TV is Jericho, about a small Kansas town that survives a nuclear attack on the United States. It also happens to be one of the most gun friendly shows on TV.

I went to the Jericho convention in Oakley, Kansas last year and plan to go again this year. I went to the site of the group that hosts the convention and noticed a legal disclaimer that reads as follows:

Weapons Policy:

Jerichon is a weapon-free convention. This means the carrying and/or wearing of weapons is not permitted, except as part of a demonstration sanctioned by the Guardians of Jericho. Failure to comply with this rule is grounds for immediate expulsion from the convention without refund, and possible criminal prosecution. Replicas of weapons are allowed at Jerichon solely for demonstration purposes; however, any demonstration which utilizes weapons must be approved by the GoJ Board prior to the convention. The only persons authorized to carry weapons at Jerichon are agents of any Federal, State or Local law enforcement units and members of the armed forces or National Guard in uniform and in a duty status.

In addition to prohibitions in Kansas State statues, the GoJ Board defines as weapons any object designed to cause bodily harm, or endanger human life. This includes, but is not limited to, firearms, projectile weapons and bladed weapons of all types. The Guardians of Jericho reserve the right to amend this definition, as well as retaining the right to contact local law enforcement regarding violations of this policy.

I intentionally did not list the link because I don't want anyone going there and posting a non-High Road comment. The people that put the convention together are all volunteers. However, I do think it's ironic that a convention honoring a pro-Second Amendment show is gun-free.

I'll also note that my Colorado CCW is good in Kansas. I mean, concealed is concealed, right?

 

[armoredman]

If they don't want your business, politely thank them, and do not attempt to attend.

 

[Jim Watson]

You might inquire what arrangements they have made for your security since they deny you the capability of protecting yourself. Just for fun.

 

[antsi]

This is a good time to resurrect one of the all-time most frequently cited THR replies:

Concealed means concealed.

 

[The Deer Hunter]

Hey when is it airing again? I saw an ad a couple weeks ago and have since forgotten what day/time its on.

 

[akodo]

remember, policy is not law.

are there legal rules on who can invoke 'no concealed carry'? Here in MN, there are rules about when landlords (the convention center) and tenants (the jericho folks) are each restricted on how they can restrict others.

There are also requirements in MN for EVERY entrance/exit to be posted in a specific way.


To a degree I can somewhat understand the GoJ policy in that they don't want people showing up in costume carrying a real weapon as a prop

but carrying a real weapon as real weapon is entirely different.

 

[Intrepid Dad]

Jericho's Second Season starts Tuesday, Feb. 12th

Hey when is it airing again? I saw an ad a couple weeks ago and have since forgotten what day/time its on.

The second season starts on Tuesday, February 12th. It's on at 10:00 p.m. Eastern/9:00 p.m. Central, but please check your local listing.

You can check out the details at:

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/

 

[Intrepid Dad]

remember, policy is not law.

are there legal rules on who can invoke 'no concealed carry'? Here in MN, there are rules about when landlords (the convention center) and tenants (the jericho folks) are each restricted on how they can restrict others.

There are also requirements in MN for EVERY entrance/exit to be posted in a specific way.


To a degree I can somewhat understand the GoJ policy in that they don't want people showing up in costume carrying a real weapon as a prop

but carrying a real weapon as real weapon is entirely different.

Akodo, you bring up a good point. I don't know if they have authority to declare a gun-free zone. Also, I'll check to see if Kansas is like Colorado, in that here in Colorado a no gun sign doesn't have legal weight, but they can ask you to leave or you'll be trespassing.

 

[akodo]

right, they can ask you to leave, and if you refuse that is tresspassing.

Of course, they can ask you to leave for any reason, like walking around with clown shoes on.

 

[SG Merc]

Depending on the location of the convention, the no-firearms policy may be that of the host and not necessarily the organizer.

For example, most large conventions are held at a hall with attached hotel. In some cases there may be a bar that serves alcohol.

In Ohio it's against the law to carry a firearm into an establishment that serves alcohol. (So you could be dealing with a similar situation in your case.)

 

[lonegunman]

They don't want you to carry weapons because it is pretend. TV is not real, these guys PRETEND to do everything. These geek conventions are mainly for people who live in worlds that are firmly detached from reality. To be honest those are the people who least need to handle guns as they have less than a firm grip on where they are now.


The vampires and werewolves who live in Goth world are nutty too. A simple punch in the face works like a charm on them. No holy water or silver bullets required, just a quick pop and down they go.

Hopefully, I didn't drift too far off the point. I just cannot imagine taking a gun to a place where people who carry rubber guns on TV could get their hands on them. As it sits, maybe one in five actors can pass a background check or a drug test. They add the bang later on the computer for heaven's sakes.

 

[baz]

right, they can ask you to leave, and if you refuse that is trespassing.

Maybe in some states. And maybe in Kansas. But be sure. Don't take it for granted. The law in my state (AR) states:

A Concealed Handgun License holder’s license is subject to immediate suspension or revocation if:
...
4. License holder is found to be in possession of a firearm in any location prohibited by law.

[then, among the places on the prohibited places list is...]

15. Any place where a property owner or manager has exercised discretion to prohibit the possession of a firearm.

We don't get asked to leave, and then charged with trespassing. We lose our license (or can, and I'm not going to risk it).

So laws differ from place to place. Never assume the laws where you live are the same elsewhere.

 

[Intrepid Dad]

Depending on the location of the convention, the no-firearms policy may be that of the host and not necessarily the organizer.

For example, most large conventions are held at a hall with attached hotel. In some cases there may be a bar that serves alcohol.

In Ohio it's against the law to carry a firearm into an establishment that serves alcohol. (So you could be dealing with a similar situation in your case.)

I've never been to a TV convention except for the Jericho convention last year. It isn't like I image most conventions to be. Jericho Central was an undeveloped lot in downtown Oakley with a large tent. That's where we picked up our passes and met for dinner (no alcohol)


Throughout the day there were events at different locations around town, including some city government buildings. Other events were held on private property. And the Friday night kick-off was held in a bar were I'm sure at least 51% of the revenue was from alcohol. In fact, it was probably around 95%.

I'll check to see if the meeting organizers really have the force of law behind them. More likely, it's like one of the earlier posters said: Policy is not law. But I'll double check to be sure.

 

[The-Fly]

I do believe KS gives private business no gun zones the power of law, unlike CO.

That said, I'd send them a nasty gram, and not attend.

 

[Karma]

I don't know what you're complaining about. The Houston Gun Shows don't even allow CHL. lol

Correctly (Texas PC 30.06) posted, too.