OK all you colt guru's.. tell me something !!!

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i just aquired a 32 ...
it has no hammer spur or front trigger guard..
it appears that it was made like that.
can any you people tell me what i have?
i'm need'n a set of grips for it and all i can find, don't even come close.
i have been told that the police positive will fit... is that a true statement?
i know its a oldie and pretty sure of the value, according to my
friend...
but i would just like to know for sure...
serial# prefix----241xx........... 6- under the serial#

please email me if you have the info or what grips will fit properly
thank you!!!
gendoc
 
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The cutaway trigger guard and bobbed hammer for pocket carry were invented and popularized by John H. FitzGerald, an exhibition shooter and "traveling ambassador" for Colt in the 1920s and '30s. A revolver so modified is called a "Fitz Special." Only a revolver from the Colt factory with his "stamp of approval," so to speak, is a true "Fitz Special," but it was also common for gunsmiths of the period to cut trigger guards and hammers. Without documentation it is unknown what you have. It could be a valuable collectible, or just a "shooter" that someone cut on. I believe you can get a factory letter from Colt telling you when the revolver was made, if it was modified at the factory and who it was first sold to.
 
Well I'm not psychic with such a terse description BUT. it could be an "open top" or a New Line or a "house gun" or a Clover Leaf if it held 4 shots. I am not aware of any spur trigger guns (SA) that lacked hammer spurs however as that would not make sense. Perhaps you have a chopped up later Pocket Positive DA gun? What are the markings? Where is the Colt symbol ect ?
 
colt symbol not found except for on the original grips, which are deteriorated....unless there somewhere i have not seen.
it has a king site base with ivory inlay along the rail center from site to site
these mods were not done by a smith or an ethusiast.
there perfect. no flaws, 6 shot....

thank you
 
All Colt guns have a name or horse logo somewhere, unless it was polished off. King is aftermarket stuff and Colt never did the ivory inlay deal so no help other than 6 shot .32 cal would make it some sort of "positive " model I believe.
 
Colt made a number of different hand-ejector .32 revolvers, which makes it hard to identify what one is without a picture. If the gun has been modified from a standard pattern the job is next to impossible. In and of itself, a serial number is usually meaningless without more information.

I will say that a genuine Colt Fitz Special made on a .32 platform would be very unusual, and therefore very valuable. Aftermarket conversions don't count. The mention of a King front sight makes me wonder if they didn't do the work, and if they did it would be of the highest quality.

Photographs are really needed here.
 
as soon as i can clean her up a bit, i will post pictures here!!!
probably around this weekend.

i have contacted a man in chicago that knows this piece..
he says it is without a doubt a fitz.....

the king site rail with ivory inlay, was to accomodate the ivory grips..

there has been alot of buffing done to it. even the "32" on the left side of the barrel is hard to see..

and he mentioned that colt did not put there logo on SOME of the fitz
custom specials in the beginning.. for liability purposes.

he, is where i got the value from....
thank you all for your responces!!!!!!
gendoc
 
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I think I can pretty well state that no gun came out of the Colt factory with the markings "hard to see", and I doubt Colt put on King sights.

It sounds like either a King job or more likely a gunsmith job.

A Colt letter would resolve the issue of how it came from the factory.

Jim
 
colt has responded to my friends request..
they are sending me a pickup ticket for shipment back to them fully insured.
so they can tell me for sure....
and they believe its real...
my friend in chicago has talked with them and give them complete history
of the pistol... even before his ownership.
it was his from 1940 to 1966.
original owner sold it to him
he bought it used, and sold it to pay off the IRS...
and it has changed hands several times since then.

he was 17 when he bought the gun, he is 86 now, and still shoot'n !!!!!

we will see !!!!
 
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