(OK) Prosecutor investigating shooting of burglar

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Prosecutor investigating shooting of burglar

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) _ The Oklahoma County District Attorney's Office is investigating whether charges should be filed against a 56-year-old cancer patient who shot a suspected burglar in the back of the head during a car chase, authorities said.

The shooting victim, Quincy Jay Roberts, 35, was one of two people suspected of robbing an Oklahoma City home about 2 p.m. Thursday, said Sgt. Mike Klika, spokesman for the Oklahoma City Police Department.

Roberts was flown to the University of Oklahoma Medical Center for treatment. Klika said his injuries were not believed life-threatening.

Roberts and Yvonne Redfeather, 38, were arrested on complaints of burglary and receiving and concealing stolen property.

The shooter, Pete Beller, was not arrested.

Beller routinely carries a handgun and has a concealed-carry permit, said his wife, Sharon Beller. He was unarmed Thursday but shot the suspect with a gun borrowed from his son, 33-year-old James Beller, who also is licensed to carry a concealed weapon.

Sharon Beller said her husband is a Tinker Air Force Base employee who learned on Tuesday he has prostate cancer.

Father and son pulled up to James Beller's home and saw a man and a woman loading his property into their car, she said.

``My husband and son blocked them in with my son's pickup,'' Sharon Beller said. ``They were trying to keep them there, but they (the suspects) rammed my son's truck and got through.''

During the ensuing chase, she said, Pete Beller shouted at the suspects to stop. As his son drove, Pete Beller aimed out the window and shot out the tire on the rear passenger side of the car.

``Then he shot out the back window,'' she said, ``and when he did, it hit the driver in the back of the head.''

The vehicle slammed to a halt, she said, and the driver _ although wounded _ emerged and began ``fighting and kicking,'' saying he burglarized the house because he needed money ``to pay a guy.''

Sharon Beller said her husband and son were defending their property.

``They've been through a self-defense class,'' she said, ``and they know that firing a gun is the last resort.''

http://www.kotv.com/pages/viewpage.asp?id=49506
 
I'm glad they got the guy.

Maybe that burgler won't be available to break into people houses and possibly murder some future person who catches him in the act

We need more folks with zero tolerance on crime.

The police primarily fill out reports if they show up at all.

The insurance company replaces your property (maybe) then drops you or raises your premium.

The burgler has invaded your residence and over the long run possibly stolen thousands of your labor hours, your sense of security and safety.

Why should we be concerned when a thief gets his hand caught in the cookie jar and summarily chased and shot if he refuses to surrender.

Some people claim vigilantism is an affront to civilized society.

I say letting criminals escape unmolested perpetuates an uncivilized society.
 
I will take the plunge and flat out say that I support Mr. Roberts.

Why? Here's one reason:
The burgler has invaded your residence and over the long run possibly stolen thousands of your labor hours, your sense of security and safety.
 
How many lives were potentially endangered by this escapade is the crucial question. Shooting tires out on cars and car to car shootouts is very Hollywood, but should that in any way be condoned?

Roberts is a criminal, I have no love for him, but had his car with its blown out tires and injured driver killed a little girl on the sidewalk (as I believe it is called over there ;) ) how many people would be supporting the shooter?

As a CCW permit holder he should know not to endanger the lives of others in defence of his property, his life was not really in danger.
 
but had his car with its blown out tires and injured driver killed a little girl on the sidewalk

Had there been children playing on the sidewalk it is unlikely Beller would have fired at the fleeing suspect.

Roberts, by ramming his car into another vehicle had already crossed the line and made him a danger to society.

Who or what else would he have rammed with his vehicle in his haste to avoid capture.

Quite possibly the same little girl several blocks away.

It would be great if more Americans had the stones to confront crime in this fashion.
 
Alan,

You cannot have CCW holders flying about like the Dukes of Hazzard if you cite the self-defence argument - being in a high speed chase is one of the most dangerous activities you can get involved in as an LEO and it should only be performed by appropriately trained people - to say nothing about the gunplay.

The time for a citizens arrest and self defence was back at the house; this was a stupid act that could easily have resulted in the deaths of either or both Bellers, or anyone else on the road for that matter.

edited to add the gunplay comment.
 
Agricola:

Point taken, however in my view, it remains that the burglars instigated the entire business. Also, there might not, in point of fact, have been any sort of "high speed chase" involved.

I wasn't there, so I can only speculate, a situation that many share.
 
I would have blocked them in better, and promptly shot out a tire while in my driveway. With one person calling the police, I would have ordered the others to get down on the ground. Oh, the perp wants to move toward me in a threatening fashion does he? I dont guess he likes the ability to eat solid food and avoid prison gang rapes does he?
 
My stuff vs innocent life at risk (and mine)...
...My stuff vs innocent life at risk (and mine)...



Yep, that's a hard decision :rolleyes:
 
I'm not ready to give these guess a medal, what they did was more than a little reckless. I'm really concerned at some of the "somebody could have been hurt" responses. It's that kind of "make it safe for the children" crap that causes trouble. Take some resonable precautions and be responsible when you mess up. Facts are, everything ended up ok, the good guys will face criminal charges, the bad guys will not see any jail time and will have all the money they need when they win their civil case. It's too bad too, I'd rather have the slighty reckless father and son cowboys for neighbors than the burgling dopehead thieves.


David
 
The words ''car chase'' and firing guns out of windows at other people should cause people to worry.
 
Car chases and running gunfights don't bother me a bit!:neener: For all I know, these guys handled themselves better than most cops. At a minimum they shot about as well. So what if it wasn't quite legally self defense! Maybe we need to think on that a minute. Looks to me that they were trying to stop a felon, having witnessed his crime. Good enough!

Seriously though, this can be played for some good ANTI PR. I can hear it now "We told you concealed weapons would turn our streets to shooting galleries!"

I may not have played it the way they did, but I'm not going to second guess them; I wasn't there.


David
 
To anyone that thinks being a LEO means you can drive (or shoot), think again! I know several city cops and a state trooper that I will not under any circumstances ride with. Being LEO doesn't make you more capable, just less culpable.

If he acts according to the best reason he hath, he is not culpable, though he be mistaken in his measures. --Sharp.

David
 
this happened ina semi rural part of the county with few bystanders to be injured. otoh okla. has a fleeing felon law that says once the felon flees you can't shot them unless they're shooting at you , trying to run over you etc. etc. saddlebum
 
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