Open Carry again

[Kleanbore]

All of the arguments against open carry are the same ones that were made when conceal carry laws were passed

A few, maybe, but far from all.

 

[Warp]

All of the arguments against open carry are the same ones that were made when conceal carry laws were passed. Time has proven those arguments have not come to pass.

Not all, but some.

Although it is worth noting that people, ALL people, have a strong tendency to think that things they have no or very limited experience with will lead to negative outcomes.

How many people right here on THR would have a problem with allowing 18 year olds to lawfully carry loaded handguns in their college dorm, to class, around campus, etc? Or lawfully allowing those students, once they turn 21, to carry a loaded handgun to a bar while drinking? Oh, and with no training requirement or anything like that either. But guess what, that is already legal in a state that ranks very very highly in terms the % of the population that is licensed to carry, and it has been that way for decades.

Is it really any different than the antis saying blood will run in the streets as fender benders, shouting matches, and fist fights turn into shootouts at the OK coral?

 

[CoalTrain49]

Why must I contend with folks chastising me for practicing it legally and responsibly?

I'm not sure why you feel you are being chastised. I pointed out that the people who OC are a minority of the people that carry and the reasons for that. Nothing more. If most everyone felt there was something wrong with it, it would be illegal. I guess it is in some states. If you don't travel and live in a state where OC is legal then you're golden. If you travel as I do, not so good.

The 2nd Amendment gives most of us the privilege to OC.

Unfortunately it doesn't. The only places where OC is legal is where the state has said it is. Generally it is based on the state constitution or some amendment made to that constitution. If 2A gave it to us and guaranteed it we would all have it. Compare it to your right to vote.

 

[gamestalker]

I have been primarily OC-ing since I started carrying more than 40 yrs. ago. And although I do CC from time to time, my purpose and reason for OC-ing has nothing what so ever to do with making a political statement, and is simply based on comfort. My primary carry gun has almost always been a revolver, sometimes large framed revolvers, but all have been rather heavy and uncomfortable revolvers to CC.

But all that aside, I also have another reasoning behind OC-ing, that being that, even though OC does make us a first target if something happens, it can also serve as a deterrent. If a bag guy should be searching for an easy target, it wouldn't likely be the person obviously carrying.

As for having the police called on me, it has happened to me on two occasions, both of course were simply individuals that were over reacting to the sight of a gun. And there was also one time when a California man went off the deep end in a convenience store, and demanded that the cop at the soda fountain do something about the two men wearing guns, that being my Son and I.

So if it does ever happen that someone tries to have me swatted it, I'll just let them do their job, which would likely end with the arrest of those perpetrating the false allegations and 911 call.

GS

 

[Warp]

Unfortunately it doesn't. The only places where OC is legal is where the state has said it is. Generally it is based on the state constitution or some amendment made to that constitution. If 2A gave it to us and guaranteed it we would all have it. Compare it to your right to vote.

In real life the Second Amendment does not protect ANY Right, at all. See: D.C., NYC, Illinois, Hawaii

 

[BSA1]

And just as there is and never has been a right to vote.

 

[BSA1]

gamestalker,

As a round gun fan and gravity taking over my waistline I agree with your comment about comfort.

One other advantage to open carry is close quarters combat. Although I would like to say a attacker will never get so close to me that they can make physical contact that is a possibility that has to be consider. With o.c. we have the advantage to use our free arm to ward off our attacker while drawing our gun with the other.

With conceal carry the cover garment usually has to be moved first.

 

[barnbwt]

"I'm not sure why you feel you are being chastised [about OCing lawfully/responsibly]."
Probably because OC folks catch a ton of flak for being supposedly both tactically deficient and damaging to the cause of gun rights for self defense. With at best dubious, and at worst, specious evidence to support either of those claims.

I personally find it notable just how squeamish CC folks seem to be about their ox being potentially gored, thinking that 'out of sight out of mind' will protect them from idiot voters/leaders. Just seems a bit Fuddish in its logic, even if it does carry some level of truth; scary black rifles did lead to bans on non-scary semi-auto sporting guns in ban-states, though we all know those guns were slated for ban under some pretense all along.

The fact that OC can be done safely, responsibly, and practically, should be all that matters to us shooters. Let the fretting and worrying and 'what ifs' come from the people that don't want any guns being carried. Some of us here practically sound like they're a mouthful away from saying "I don't want to live in a world where (I can see) everyone has a gun"

TCB

 

[Robert]

After 7 pages we are going around in circles, as is wont to happen to just about any thread. Carry however suits your needs best and is legal in your area and don't worry about what the internet has to say about how you chose to carry.