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It is coming to Oklahoma. Don't know that I will open carry, but it will remove the penalty for accidentally exposing your concealed carry.

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I have open carried on only a handful of occasions aside from trips to the range or LGS. I don't think many people noticed--nobody said anything to me.
 
Its not my preferred method. But I do occasionally go out without a cover garment over my gun.

I dont live in the city so most folks dont care if they see a gun.

Its nice if you accidently uncover your gun, knowing its not a crime for it to become exposed.
 
First one dead

I am not a believer in OC unless hunting or at range.

You will be the first one shot in a "incident".

And unless you much better than any I have seen,your gun can be taken.

LEO's lose them all the time to gun grabs,and they have some training.

I taught weapon retention to LEO's and they are not good enough,in my opinion.

I agree that passing the law will make an accidental viewing safer.
 
chiappa1911 said:
I was wonderin (sic)
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If you were wondering, the SEARCH function would return dozens of previous threads on the topic. Then you would see how the anti-gun folks who make statements like "first one shot" or "it will get taken" are proven wrong over and over. Somehow they still don't get it... :rolleyes:

I agree that passing the law will make an accidental viewing safer.
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Here in Washington we carry openly, concealed, and indifferently, in major cities like Seattle, and even within the Capitol building in Olympia, and we never needed a law to be passed.
 
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Lobo, can you share the source of any documentation regarding OC persons being the first ones shot? I've seen plenty of declarations like yours offered in threads like this one, but I don't recall any documented proof being provided.
 
You will be the first one shot in a "incident".
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I use to be a strong believer of this to but it doesn't seem to actually happen where OC is normal.

Also I do believe that crimes have been stopped before they ever started due to a OC citizen in the area (course there's no way to prove that either).


Texas does not have OC yet, but we are working on it.

Personally I would probably OC about half the time.
 
@ resist evil

I have read where OC resulted in a stolen gun,very recently.

But its not my duty to look it up and post it.

Dont believe me,or trust my ability to read and comprehend - thats ok with me.

But look at the actual statistics of LEO's that have their gun taken and if your better and safer than they [ they actually use a level II or III holster ] then go for it.

Its your life,I see what I see and know what I taught.

Those who OC risk the loss of the gun and possibly their life.

As to OC resulting in death,remember a coffee shop where the a 'few' LEO's were shot and killed ?.

If you were OC'ing in there when that happened,you too might have died.

I really dont mind OC as I then know who is armed.

I prefer CCW,but its your life and your choice.
 
But look at the actual statistics of LEO's that have their gun taken and if your better and safer than they [ they actually use a level II or III holster ] then go for it.
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Do you seriously believe you can compare a police officer with a typical open carrier?!

Never in the history of the world was a police officer targeted for his or her handgun. Of course officers get their guns taken, any halfwit knows that, but never was it taken because the officer was just strolling along minding his or her business and was attacked to get it. They get their guns taken because bad people will fight to keep their freedom, something the officer is trying to take from them, but never because the bad people fancied a new pistol.

Critical thinking skills; cultivate them.
 
Lobo, I asked a simple respectful question solely about requesting your evidence about getting shot first, so thank you for taking the time to answer. A simple "No" would have sufficed. It was my fault for inferring from your statement that such was a common occurrence in criminal attacks.
 
Open carry has been legal here for as long as I can remember.
I did it all the time while living in a small farm & ranching town 50 years ago, and nobody gave you a second glance.
Course everyone within 10 miles knew your first name too.

Today, in a much larger liberal collage city, I might do it at the 7-11 getting coffee while dressed in cammo on the way to go coyote hunting at 5:00 AM.

However, if I walked into Walmart at 2:00 PM, 60 air-heads with cell phones would be calling in "Man with a Gun" reports before I got through the second set of automatic doors!

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Resist Evil said:
Lobo, can you share the source of any documentation regarding OC persons being the first ones shot? I've seen plenty of declarations like yours offered in threads like this one, but I don't recall any documented proof being provided.
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One doesn't need to document proof to make common sense a legitimate point. If I were a crazed gunman wanting to shoot up a store, I wouldn't be deterred by someone with a gun on his hip; I would shoot him first.

I'm sure there are some crazy gunmen out there with less logical approaches than mine, but that's not someone I would want to bet on.
 
scaaty lobo said:
But its not my duty to look it up and post it.
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If you're the one who made the claim it's on you to back it up

Bobson said:
One doesn't need to document proof to make common sense a legitimate point. If I were a crazed gunman wanting to shoot up a store, I wouldn't be deterred by someone with a gun on his hip; I would shoot him first.
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Yes one does, I don't see a lot of new stories about OC'rs getting shot first do you?
 
Here in virginia open carry is (fairly) common. Ive been doing so for the last 5 years. Outside of work i am open carrying 90% of the time and concealed the rest (usually if i have a winter jacket on anyway).

Have had the police called several times but they generally dont respond and when you give the "if i am not under arrest ill be on my way" and walk off the roll their eyes and respect my rights.

Some stores/chains dont allow it but alot do; starbucks, walmart, etc

If they dont i just take my money elsewhere!


Id recomend checking Opencarry.org before you try. Very knowledgeable folks (not just internet lawyers/ "trainers" repeating old wife tales) and you will inform yourself of the actual law. You will probably be confronted by leo and others and if you are not one to maintain composure and stick to your guns-RIGHTS! It may not be for you.
 
Open Carry is legal here in PA with the proper permits of course.
I really don't like Open Carry, simply because the "open carriers" focus un-needed attention of the "Left" on our 2A rights.
For now I'll keep my daily carry in my pants pocket and NOT visable enough to cause anyone to raise havoc.
FLAUNTING your "carry " rights means only problems down the road.
 
Zeke sounds like the left already won up there if your scared of "fluanting your carry rights" (that you seem to agree a permit should be required to exercise for some reason).
 
It's legal in PA, and I have - on occasion - even open-carried around my office! My office is an office of one though, so that's not as impressive as it sounds. :p

Keep in mind, you need to have a GOOD mastery of your weapon & holster if you do so. Someone nefarious sort might well want to RELIEVE you of your weapon, especially since they'll KNOW you have one! You'll need a higher situational awareness of your surroundings accordingly.

BE PREPARED for the cops to be called on you, as the nanny-state ninnies will all wring their hands and scream "MAN WITH A GUN" at 9-1-1. The police response could be as simple as a single officer showing up (so the ninny can SEE him talking to you, as they cower beneath their windowsill), saying, "We got a report of a man with a gun, but I see you're just wearing it lawfully open-carried," to, the SWAT Team showing up, and 100 cops with M4's pointed at you! :eek: I've seen and heard of ALL manner of responses in-between as well.

Count on the bolder ninnies to walk up to you, and ask WHY you have a "cannon on your hip," and why you find it necessary to "carry a gun and PROMOTE 'violence' as, 'the answer.'" :rolleyes: Sheeple cannot be reasoned with, so simply tell them, that if an assailant comes and attacks them, you'll respect their wishes and NOT defend them. ;) It gives them food for thought, without trying to explain RKBA to someone as dumb as a box of rocks.

Otherwise, you should be good to go. Be confident, and be ready to be questioned by EVERYBODY. It's tougher carrying open today, than it was in Wyatt Earp's day, even though there are MORE badguys on the streets!
 
I've open carried occasionally, usually just if I'm running up to the corner grocery store or something simple like that, it really doesn't seem to be a huge deal in my area. I've even dealt with police officers with a gun openly displayed on my hip without incident (once at a traffic stop, once when they came to my door to ask about a hit and run that happened next door). You'll get a few stares, a question or comment every now and then (some positive, some negative), you might get the cops called on you (happened to a friend of mine) but as long as you keep your head on straight you'll walk away without any trouble.

I do prefer to conceal not because I believe the folks telling me I'll be the first target or have someone attempt to snatch my gun, but because I simply wish to avoid the attention of strangers.
 
conhntr said:
Zeke sounds like the left already won up there if your scared of "fluanting your carry rights" (that you seem to agree a permit should be required to exercise for some reason).
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The "Left" has not won here in PA YET!
With ALL the regs now in place, it's STILL impossible to weed out the "crackpots" that desire to daily carry.
The "crackpots" are my concern, as they are the ones who focus attention on the negatives of my 2A rights.
 
Trunk Monkey said:
I don't see a lot of new stories about OC'rs getting shot first do you?
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I don't see a lot of news stories that say the Peace Corps or church missions make any kind of difference in the lives of desperate people in third world countries either, not to mention the numerous families who devote their entire lives to helping and volunteering in Romanian orphanages, or building drinking wells in central Africa, or providing medical and dental care to those who live in South American jungles. Evidently, helping the less fortunate is a complete and utter waste of time. If it wasn't, it would be all over the news!

Your logic is outrageously flawed. Any amount of common sense should make that easy to realize.
 
scaatylobo said:
I am not a believer in OC unless hunting or at range.

You will be the first one shot in a "incident".

And unless you much better than any I have seen,your gun can be taken.

LEO's lose them all the time to gun grabs,and they have some training.

I taught weapon retention to LEO's and they are not good enough,in my opinion.

I agree that passing the law will make an accidental viewing safer.
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Good info.

Pete
 
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