Ordered a CZ 527 Carbine in 7.62X39MM

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George Hill

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I'm quite smitten with the 527 Carbine in 7.62X39MM. It should be here any day now. The question I have is what can I expect from it and what scope should I top it with? I'm thinking a Leupold or Bushnell Elite 2-7 Variable. I like the size these little scopes come in. Keeps with the whole look and vibe of the carbine.
 
I had the same smitten and just picked one up last week. Unfortunatly I have not shot it yet. I was impressed with how quickly and naturally it pointed and was thinking I would leave the irons on it and try that first. I don't think with that round I would shooting past 200 yards anyway.
 
It's a fun little rifle to shoot but not terribly accurate. I use a Nikon Monarch 2-7x scope and get 2-3" groups at 100yds using 122gr Wolf. Plenty accurate enough for hunting.
 
I demand more range reports!!!:) I think these are neat looking little rifles and would love to have one. I think one of those Bushnell Elite 2-7 compact scopes would be just the ticket. I'd love to get one of the Marlin 1894c's in 357 mag also and top it off with either a red dot sight or a compact scope. Dangit, I gotta quit day dreaming when I'm broke.:banghead:
 
Hand load for this rifle and you can get 1.5 MOA without too much difficulty.

One issue is that with the stock bolt knob, you have to mount a scope fairly high. You can modify the knob for lower mounting, or get a knob from James Calhoon for $40 plus trade in

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I have the 527 carbine in both x39 and .223. The .223 is probably more accurate but to me the x39 is a 100yd and under woods gun. So the x39 will keep the iron sights but I am looking to scope the .223. I don't want to modify the bolt handly and think I will at least try out the high mount first. By the way I love these rifles. They feel as natural and part of me as anything I've ever owned.
 
I have the aforementioned carbine I have no complaints about accuracy. Wolf groups 2 to 3 inches, handloads shooting the 125grn Nosler B-tip @ 2450 FPS shoot an honest sub MOA and are havoc on deer out to 250yds

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I just came in from shooting my 527 carbine.Granted my target [a 1" sq.sticky]was only 45 yds away[I shoot from back porch set up] all 10 rounds were all in the sticky.This gun is my most accurate.AND this was wolf ammo.
 
only expect surprise, awe, and greatness. it will eat well, and then fire very well, all types of ammo you can put into it. I've got a 6.24 scope on mine, which is overkill really, for the caliber, but heck, if the rifle is accurate enough to utilize....
 
I REALLY want one of these to do this with.....

I looking hard for a used 527 in 7.62x39 to send to Jim Brockman for his conversion to 6.5 grendel........

http://www.brockmansrifles.com

I don't think he lists it on his website, but the word is that they shoot GREAT. He puts a match barrel[19"] and chambers it for the Grendel for $425 I believe......
 
It's a fun little rifle to shoot but not terribly accurate. I use a Nikon Monarch 2-7x scope and get 2-3" groups at 100yds using 122gr Wolf. Plenty accurate enough for hunting.

I got a chance to shoot one the other day and I rather liked it, but I also got some great insight into peoples claims of accuracy. The owner was shooting it at 50 yards into groups about 1.5-2 inches while telling me how it was a tackdriver and a MOA shooter.

My own experience with CZ's is that they really are tackdrivers and MOA shooters and that rifle might have been too if it had been shooting something other than Wolf, but I found it amusing that someone would shoot a 3-4 MOA group and try to tell me he was shooting MOA.
 
You won't need a high power scope, maybe fixed 3x or so. The bolt handle does indeed hit the scope if you use regular rings...CZ high rings are $50! Plus you can't get a decent cheek weld.

I tried a 1" Millett red dot, but just didn't float my boat. Iron sights seem to work best, but keep in mind there's no ready adjustment for windage, and elevation is done by REPLACING the front sight blade. I asked around, doesn't seem to be an adjustable rear sight made for it.

I have some FTF issues with Wolf. CZ sent me a new firing pin spring for free which helped but didn't eliminate the problem. All the strikes are really deep though.

My mags are going back to CZ. The follower tends to tilt in the mag and prevents feeding at times. I'm not the only one with the issue.

But even with all these niggling problems, I still thoroughly enjoy it...one of my favorites.
 
I just put a Leupold 2-7x33 in Warne rings on mine. I haven't gotten a chance to shoot it yet do to the range frowning upon Wolf.
 
Plus you can't get a decent cheek weld.

Cheek weld is definitely an issue with CZ rifles due to the design of the bolt handle. I use medium high Leupold rings and could not get a good cheek weld. Then I found this Beartooth comb height kit at Gander Mountain and put it on to raise the comb 5/8". Problem solved. It ain't pretty but it's cheap and works great.

http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0010018223766a.shtml
 
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Love my Carbine

I have a Leoupold VARI-X 2-7 compact on my Carbine in 7.62x39. It seems like one of the best woods rifles I have owned. Light and fast.
 

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Plus you can't get a decent cheek weld.

Cheek weld is definitely an issue with CZ rifles due to the design of the bolt handle. I use medium high Leupold rings and could not get a good cheek weld. Then I found this Beartooth comb height kit at Gander Mounting and put it on to raise the comb 1/2". Problem solved. It ain't pretty but it's cheap and works great.

http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0010018223766a.shtml

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This isn't much more money and I hear it works pretty well aslo. IMHO the looks on this one aren't bad either. :t (Just don't get either wet.)

Link: Cabela's Leather Cheek Pad Item:XH-220711 $25.99

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George great choice and you will not regret it!

In general I love the 527's and especially these neat little Carbines! I'm sure you will love it too as you seem to be into all around utilitarianism, quality and bang for the buck. These little gems have all the above.

I was lucky enough to have recently picked one up from a fellow THR'er (GunTech). I just thought it would be a great rifle for my wife and kids for hunting and ammo is plentiful and relatively cheap. There is also the neat fact that it is in a caliber redundant with some of my "other kinds" of rifles ;) which isn't a bad thing either. With only two outings and @100 rnds fired from the bench, I figured that it had many years of life left in it. Additionally, what's kinda cool about this little round is I can plink with the cheap mil-surp stuff but there is also quite a few reloading and factory offerings for it now too. The latter are nearly equal or even outperform the 30/30; basically that is what it essentially is, a modern 30/30.

Since receiving it, I have totally loved the way it handles as well as it's balance and trigger. The trigger is perfect even if used on standard setting. It's funny, you know how the Full Stocks just kinda grab you, well these do the same thing but from the other end of the spectrum, eh? It's kind of hard to explain but some of you will know what I mean.

As far as looks, you should see this thing, it looks even better in person. Especially so as some of the Carbines tend to get a bit more plain wood. I also like that they have iron sights on these rigs which makes them even more utilitarian all the way around. With it's 3 mags, low profile bolt, rings, scope, reloading dies, 100 rounds of hunting ammo, a few hundred loose bullets and delivered to boot....it was a HECK OF A DEAL! (Thx again GT!)

Anyway, as you can tell, I'm definitely impressed and satisfied with this thing so far. It has completely convinced me that when I find the right wood and deal, that I'll just HAVE to have it's twin in .223 to match. LOL That way I will have the perfect first hunting rifle( .30 cal) with it's matching perfect first varmint rifle "for my kids"! BTW I already have a .527 Walnut Varmint in .204 Ruger (LOVE IT!) And have just acquired a 527 Kevlar.223 from yet another THR'er. (Haven't received it yet though.) ...with plans for other 527 purchases already planned.

Here are pics of my 527 x39 Carbine with it's little Burris 4X and it's already turned down bolt.

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There is no scout setup that i know of for this rifle...yet.

I actually started thinking about builing one that used the rear sight dovetail and the front of the rail. It would be very doable.

Tou, I am glad you are liking the rifle. I'm thinking about getting another one for a conversion to 6.5 - probably my own 6.5x42mm wildcat. It is a superb rifle. I still shoot my 223 and 22 K Hornet 527s.

The Kevlar 223 is a superb varmint rifle.
 
Several months ago there was a post on THR about a rail for the 527 but I can't recall anything further. it looked from pictures as if it could handle a forward mounted scope, something I was also considering.
 
Several months ago there was a post on THR about a rail for the 527 but I can't recall anything further. it looked from pictures as if it could handle a forward mounted scope, something I was also considering.

Kalinkaoptics had them, but they appear to have gone the way of the dodo
 
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