other questions about new CZ,,,

[280PLUS]

what range should i set the sights to?

i intend to hunt close up to 200 yds max,,, (7.62 x 39)

windage looks ok but elevation is questionable at 100 yds.

and,,,

i'm new to these sights, the front sight looks like a ball on a post,

should i set it so it covers the black with the ball or should the black sit on top of the ball

the rear sight is a square notch, should the top of the rear sight split the front sight in half or should the front dight nestle right down in the notch?

(so that the top of the front and rear sight are aligned.

 

[goon]

I would set them so that you put the center of the bullseye on top of the bead on the front sight. Also, I have always sighted any gun with that type of sights so that the bead is clear in the bottom of the notch of the rear sight. You should be able to see the whole bead but not any of the post. This will help with getting the same sight picture every time.
I would zero it for around 75 to 100 yards.
I have hunted since I was a kid and I have never taken a shot at a deer over 150 yards away. I have used a 303 British, a 30-30 Marlin, and a .308. Both the 303 and the .308 will shoot that far and then some, but it is hard to justify taking a shot like that when I stand a chance of wounding the animal, especially when I could just get closer. This a personal thing though. My dad has killed deer cleanly at over 400 yards. He hit one through the brain stem that far away. He is a better shot that I am though.
If you want to be able to kill cleanly at 200 yards, you will need to practice alot and you should also consider putting a scope on your gun.
People are going to tell you that you need more gun to shoot 200 yards, and the truth is that I would feel a little questionable taking a shot at a deer that far away with a 7.62x39mm.
When people refer to the range of the 7.62x39mm being about 250-300M, they are talking about hitting a man sized target in battle.
But if you get good enough with it, there is no reason that you couldn't kill a deer with it that far away. I am sure that shooting a CZ with good ammo will be alot more accurate than an AK with Wolf, so that should increase your potential as well.
Anyhow, stop worrying. Your CZ will do the job as well as any Winchester ever would. To tell the truth, I am kind of envious.
I really want a CZ 527.

 

[Dot_mdb]

I'm not a hunter. But. . .

According to my balistic calculator if you set your sights so that you are about 3" high at 100 yards you should be dead on at about 180 yards. If you figure a 6" kill zone on the target that setting would allow you to shoot from zero to about 220 yards without changing the sights.

However, most people would probably not consider that rifle and cartridge combination to be acceptable for humane kills much past 125 yards on deer sized animals. The 7.62 x 39 cartridge is usually compared to the .30-30, but really is slightly less powerful when loaded with the standard 150 gr bullet used in the .30-30.

I believe that the 527 carbine uses interchangeable front sights to adjust for elevation. I think CZ offers about 15 different heights and you might have to experiment to get the results that you require.

You can call CZ for more information. Their number is: 800-955-4486

The current American Rifleman magazine has an interesting article testing the CZ 527 carbine. The tests showed acceptable accuracy using Winchester, PMC and Wolf ammo. If you read the article ignore their comments on bore size. They state that the bore size is .308 but it is .311 to use all standard 7.62 x 39 ammo. I called CZ to verify that and to also verifly that this rifle will accept steel cased Wolf ammo without any harm.

Enjoy your new rifle.

Bill

 

[280PLUS]

thanx,,,

i was wondering how to set the front sight,

i believe you just answered it for me,,,

darn, now i have to go back to the range and shoot it some more,,,

ps,,,i'll take the info on not shooting deer much farther than 150 yds, i do intend to take only smaller ones and i know i don't want to be responsible for wounding any animals out there.

i probably wont take the rifle out this season but intend to get real good with it for next year

thanx all

m

later,,,

hah,,,just read the AR article, if thats the best they can do at 50 yards with this rifle, then them boys can't shoot worth a plugged nickel,,,

i got one at 100 yds with 3 rounds in the 10 ring and from hole center to hole center 2 are 1" and the farthest 2 are 1.5" you can see the target over at the other thread i posted,,,

its the one with the 3 in the ten ring,,,

and thats only the first day with me trying to figure out the sights!!

 

[Baba Louie]

280,

Nice looking rifle/carbine.

Question? Are you going to hunt with the CZ and if so, what weight bullet are you planning on using? Saying the ballistics are roughly the same as a .30-30 is true only if other things are equal and a 122 gr. fired from a 7.62x39 rifle is not the same as a 150 or 170 gr. pellet from a .30-30.

You don't have to answer that, or you might not even hunt, but if that should ever be in your plans, look for a heavier pill to push which might affect your sights, etc. Of course, I assume you know that, but some people who lurk and want to learn might need the reminder.

edited to add (I just saw and read your last post again... you do hunt... sorry for my befuddled state)
That is really a fine looking little CZ. Gonna have to see what those things cost.

Adios

 

[280PLUS]

yea, theres a little problem here,,,

i' going to have to settle in on 2 rounds, one for plinking and one for hunting.

now that ive reread the manual and thanx to someone here, i've found that
tha front sight is interchangeable for elevation so once i figure out what i need for each i should be all set.

windage on mine seems very good,,,

thanx

 

[Dot_mdb]

280, I see that you had asked a question about where the front sight post should be in relation to the rear sight notch. I believe that it should extend the full length of the notch to the top.

A few weeks ago I was shooting a fellow's K98 Mauser which had a similar set up but the rear notch was a V shape. I asked the same question and he said to hold with the front sight all the way to the top of the notch. And I've asked that question of other experienced shooters and gotten the same answer. I think that you will find that if you try to bring the top of the post down to the bottom of the notch you will have a poor sight picture because the sides of the rear sight will be obsuring too much of the target and you will not be able to judge when the front sight is centered as well either.

You might want to experiment and do more research on this also. I seem to recall that the question of sight picture was discussed once on the old Firing Line forum which is still running for searches.

Bill