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Our Sheriffs have spoken - Is it time for civil disobedience by gun owners?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by bds, Jan 27, 2013.

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  1. bds

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    Over 127 and growing number of our Sheriffs declared/pledged Obama gun legislation will not be enforced - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=698885

    We have our rights to keep and bear arm under the Constitution which was supported by the US Supreme Court but our government wants to infringe on those rights.

    Civil disobedience has worked successfully for various causes around the world. Is it time for gun owners?

    This is the definition from Merriam-Webster - http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civil disobedience

     
  2. bds

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    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...-owners-refuse-to-register-under-new-york-law

     
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    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/hit_us_with_your_best_shot_andy_5rxZg0gYBJJhkLBtiTPMfJ

     
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    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...-owners-refuse-to-register-under-new-york-law
     
  5. Hoppy

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    What is it called when the administration announces it won't follow the law? I.e. they will not enforce immigration laws.. administrative disobedience?
     
  6. glove

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    Lets just hope that people will stand up for there rights. After all they did put Obama back in and we knew what he is going to do. I swear I heard Obama say he would up hold and defend the Constitution of the United States when he was sworn in.
     
  7. TIMC

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    All I can say is, if he wont there are those that will.
     
  8. GAF

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    For the tough internet commando. They will come and smash you . They will say you are a kook . The news media will repeat that lie over and over again.

    They will move on to the next name on their list. That is what the machine will do at your expense $$$ !!!
    You tax dollars at work !
     
  9. black_powder_Rob

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    Except if you don't register it how will they know?
     
  10. chris in va

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    In no way should New Yorkers comply with this absurd law.
     
  11. essayons21

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    Tyranny?

    Our nation was founded and flourished under the rule of law. Many of the current crop of politicians and bureaucrats at all levels seek to replace the rule of law with the rule of public opinion.

    This is no new trend, it has just taken the threatening of our final safeguard of liberty, the Second Amendment, to awaken enough of us into taking action.
     
  12. Cosmoline

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    No. The best way to undermine the efforts in NY and other anti-gun states is to leave and take your tax dollars and other contributions with you. Guys like Cuomo are essentially organized crime racketeers. They don't care if the have to put you in a hole. They WANT to. But these states have something else in common beside anti-gun laws. They're all hurting BADLY in the pocket book. NY is no exception. If enough income earners pull out and leave their house to the crackheads the states will continue to fall apart, lose representatives and wield less political power. That should be the goal. Bring money, talent and resources to the states that will appreciate these things. And get a lighter tax burden in the bargain. Win win.
     
  13. MrTwigg

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    We'll see who's serious once the shootin' starts.
     
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    Just curious.... if the governor, attorney general, and CLEOs of a state larger than any country in western Europe were to order their subordinate jurisdictions not to comply, and encourage the citizens to quietly carry on with their lives... could you really call the average man's actions 'civil disobedience'?
     
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    I didn't agree with the last AWB. But it didn't matter! The Gun manufacturers & Ammunition Companys did, along with the gun importers! I had no say in those decisions & no one I know did eather! It still happened! We must get the support of a large group of people that have a lot to lose by supporting us! We can ignore them but we do it at a great danger to our liberty! I hope more LEOs do support us but there's a lot that don't! I saw quite a few LEOs behind the senators on C-Span, while they were calling for the AWB! Let's hope we can win some hearts & minds. JMTs.
     
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    The state will respond as they do against all civil disobedience: with crushing violence.
     
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    I have repeatedly posted that gun owners are our worse enemy.

    The Government has given us the most powerful weapon in the world...the privilege to vote. Yet most gun owners fail to use it and now whine about the gun control laws being passed.

    Civil disobedience worked in India but it took many years, surviving severe government crackdowns, required massive support from the population and the cost of many thousands of lives and a powerful leader. And remember Indians did not enjoy the right to vote.

    If you personally are willing to endure imprisonment, loss of all of personal property and assets, separation from your family and friends and possible death along with all of your followers experience the same events and have the ability to persuade others to do the same I suggest you change your name to Gandhi.
     
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    I'm relieved to see a growing segment of those who would be expected to enforce these laws at the point of LEO interacting with "violators" are taking this stand. Hats off, gents.

    Then what's it called when this administration has deported illegal aliens at a higher rate than the last one?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...han-bush-republicans-dont-think-thats-enough/
     
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    LEO's behind gov !

    Any and all LEO's that were standing behind gov cuomo were ORDERED to do so.

    I am in NYS and I have spoken to all officers I know and all retirees and they all say the gov. is full of hot air and they will NOT do as asked.

    Most feel that they are free men.
     
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    Just curious, does anyone know of any lawsuits against the State of NY?
     
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    Is there a way to start a legal fund for New Yorker's refusing to comply? Does anyone have any contact in the NRA that could start something like this by donation?
     
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    They did what they were ordered to do, stand behind gov. windbag. I hope you are right when push comes to shove and they are ordered to disarm or shoot their fellow citizens. Some will not follow orders, but sadly some will commit murder and not lose a wink of sleep over it because they were "just following orders or doing their job".

    A time for choosing is coming in America it would seem and we are going to be forced into making some hard choices.
     
  23. mcdonl

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    Murder. I dont think so.

    I wake up everyday with one goal. Provide for my family. If it were me, I would not jeopordize my career and family for a political cause no matter how important it is and I would not ask anyone else to do so on my behalf.

    This is America. We voted these people in office, and if they change a law and get the support to do so we have no one to blame but ourselves. This is not the fault of the people paid to put their lives on the lines to protect and serve. We do not need to like the laws, and we can change them with due process but right now, we are fighting against the same people we elected and it is a pretty even match the way I see it. Until the next election.
     
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    There are articles detailing the low percentage of guns in many nations that are ever registered when required. Either move out-of-state, or get a good safe, don't say anything to anyone, put that gun in the safe, and leave it for the day that Armageddon comes.

    It will be obvious that their compliance rate is extremely low. Wait for the courts to declare it unconstitutional.
     
  25. NeuseRvrRat

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    this is not an accurate quote. it is often spouted on gun forums. very sad that one of new york's legislators also spouted it off.
     
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