Our Sheriffs have spoken - Is it time for civil disobedience by gun owners?

[loose noose]

Just look at what happened in California, You still can't buy an AR-15 with cosmetic accessories such as a flash suppressor, or a pictanny rail, or heaven forbid a 30 round magazine, let alone a hand grip. Where were the People of that State when these laws were enacted. I did live in that State for about 30 years, but moved out just before the draconian laws were enacted, because of the taxation, not the gun laws at the time. Most gun dealers can't even ship a firearm to California let alone ammo. Someone tell me how is New York any different? lol

 

[tacxted]

my 2 cent

I feel the time for civil disobedience is nearing.

Americans do not want to give up their guns, and one look at the united kingdom will encourage many not to.

But the time isnt right for civil disobedience.

I would like to see a massive gathering of armed americans march onto the lincoln memorial and fill the national mall
with thousands of free americans, and in one unified voice say, "we will not obey."

I would love to see that day. It would cement forever that americans will keep their guns.

 

[Deer_Freak]

Law enforcement in urban areas will enforce the ban. Law enforcement agencies in a large cities have become militarized. They think they can enforce registration and put down any civil disobedience. They smashed the occupiers and they think they can smash anything else that might pop up.

Rural sheriffs might not enforce the ban. They lack the manpower and they don't agree with the law personally. It will work in the same way as the Canadian effort To register firearms that was abandoned after it was an abysmal failure.

 

[chucknbach]

For the tough internet commando. They will come and smash you . They will say you are a kook . The news media will repeat that lie over and over again.

They will move on to the next name on their list. That is what the machine will do at your expense $$$ !!!
You tax dollars at work !

The state will respond as they do against all civil disobedience: with crushing violence.

Better for us to suffer than our children.

Do we do the right thing or the safe thing?

The Obama regime has given themselves unprecedented power to kill, detain, silence, basically strip all God given rights listed in the Bill of Rights from us.

The Obama insurrectionists have disobeyed the highest law in the land, The Constitution. They are lawbreakers, oathbreakers and have set their course on open rebellion.

Murder. I dont think so.

I wake up everyday with one goal. Provide for my family. If it were me, I would not jeopordize my career and family for a political cause no matter how important it is and I would not ask anyone else to do so on my behalf.

This is America. We voted these people in office, and if they change a law and get the support to do so we have no one to blame but ourselves. This is not the fault of the people paid to put their lives on the lines to protect and serve. We do not need to like the laws, and we can change them with due process but right now, we are fighting against the same people we elected and it is a pretty even match the way I see it. Until the next election.
Today 07:36 AM

We maybe out of time for due process but I hope not. We can't just roll over hoping to get them next time, in the elections. These usurper presidents are consolidating power than passing it on to the next one. I get sick to my stomache thinking what we might see in our liftime but it's time we wake up and take responsibility and do our duty. "Evil prevails when good men do nothing".

If you know someone in law enforcement or the military pass this link onto them.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

We don't want any repeats of hurricane Katrina.

 

[mbt2001]

Law enforcement in urban areas will enforce the ban. Law enforcement agencies in a large cities have become militarized. They think they can enforce registration and put down any civil disobedience. They smashed the occupiers and they think they can smash anything else that might pop up.

The British also tried confiscation... The same is true here in Texas. The Battle of Gonzalez, the event that touched off the Revolution, broke out when Mexican troops tried to disarm Texans.

We are lucky that we have some measure of redress compared to our forefathers. If we stand fast, passively resist, start legal funds, pressure the elected officials, fight in court; then WE MIGHT not need to follow in the footsteps of our forefathers.

Somebody had to say it.

 

[pendennis]

Civil disobedience is a tough nut for many to accept, and use, as a political means.

The 1960's civil rights campaign, for those who did not live through it, is an abject lesson in how social changed is effected by a minority.

In places like Selma, Montgomery, and Birmingham, Alabama; in Richmond, Virginia; and a host of other cities, blacks were willing to be arrested and put in jail for defying what they perceived to be a tyrannical government. They withstood assaults by dogs, police, and high-pressure fire hoses, to get the point across. They were locked up en masse, for disobeying dispersal orders. They marched from Selma to Birmingham.

The question each person must ask him/herself is, "Am I willing to go to jail, and withstand the judicial system, in order to have my 2nd Amendment rights upheld?"

Can each of us "pull a Gandhi", and use peaceful disobedience to force the issue?

 

[sarge83]

mcdonl,

I guess we can agree to disagree. At this point I have to question due process as a citizen. We are supposed to trust the system when we watch it daily fly in the face of the law and common sense. Those elected are flagrantly violating the Constitution they and you swore an oath to defend without consequences.

If you receive an order that you know is un-Constitutional and flat out flies in the face of the laws of God and nature and in the process of carrying out that order kill a citizen who defies the order you can reason it away and say you were following orders but I don't think their family is going to see it that way.

Again I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

 

[mcdonl]

mcdonl,I guess we can agree to disagree

Yes, on this single item only. Keep up the fight brother.

 

[mrvco]

At what point can someone in NYS get this in front of the courts?

It is amazing how we've gone so quickly from "Dissent is the Highest Form of Patriotism", to "Capitulation is the Highest Form of Patriotism".

 

[mcdonl]

This thread did prompt me to get a response from my Sheriff so I know where we stand at the next election...

***** *********
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Limington, ME 04049
January 28, 2013


Maurice Ouellette
Sheriff
York County Sheriff’s Office
1 Layman Way
Alfred, ME 04002

Dear Sheriff Ouellett:

As a concerned American, and citizen of York County I wanted to write you to get a formal response to the following questions:

1. What is your opinion on the ownership of AR-15 rifles with greater than 10 round magazine capacity by residents of York County?
2. Would you, as the Sheriff of York County use force to execute a confiscation of currently legal firearms if the proposed bill to ban “Assault Weapons” or the outcomes of the ban leads to such actions?

I am actively lobbying against this bill, and the strongest tool that I have at my disposal is a pencil in a ballot box. I want to know where my elected officials stand on this so I can campaign for or against them.

Now is not the time for politics, now is the time for a firm stance on one side or the other so that registered voters know where to put the “x” at the polls.

To make it easy on you, I have enclosed a stamped addressed envelope for your convenience.

Sincerely,

***** *********


Resident of York County

This will go out in the mail today.