while the rumors of Colts being delicate are unfounded this is not the thread to discuss it I too will stand by my statement that Smith and Wesson used to make fine revolvers. For her 15th birthday I gave my daughter a pinned 4 inch model 19. It is an outstanding weapon that she will get years of enjoyment from and pass down to her children. The newer Smith revolvers that live here (, my wife's 2.5 inch 686 and my 4 inch 686) cannot hold a candle to it. The 19 has better fit, better finish, better action as will as some nice features.