critrxdoc
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- Apr 17, 2006
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Hello THR brothers. My collection of autoloaders for a long time has consisted of Glocks (I have 5). I have shot many M&P, Sig, Kimber, HK, etc brands and have always come back to Glocks. They are certainly not perfect but I shoot them well and nothing had performed better in my hand.
Reading the gun magazines and watching multiple reviews on YouTube gun channels enticed me to buy the PPQ and most recently the P10C. Both of these pistols are very good and I enjoy shooting both. I had not expected to get an completely unbiased opinion from these sources but I have to say the negatives of these new striker fired, polymer pistols were not discussed in adequate detail for an informed decision.
All these pistols I believe are very reliable so I will not discuss this.
Glock:
Cons: grip angle we are all familiar with requires significant wrist canting (can be mastered - I have never understood not being able to get the gun to point for desired shot placement); Gen 3 grip texture is poor; trigger is not stellar; sights are cheap plastic; accuracy is acceptable but not stellar; chamber support not optimal in high pressure rounds
Pros: low bore axis, manageable recoil impulse, still the giant in striker fired for a reason
PPQ:
Cons: sights are cheap plastic; higher bore axis increases recoil impulse and delays time back to target; my thumb rides the slide stop often precluding the last shot slide open
Pros: ergonomics are great; grip angle is natural; grip feels great; trigger is the best of the 3 in my opinion - outstanding crisp smooth pull and short reset. The pull before the wall does not feel as long as the P10C. Accuracy is superb. Multiple shooters in rested and unrested positions have validated this.
P10C:
Cons: The controls for magazine release and slide stop are VERY stiff and difficult to operate. I have read (see comments above) that this improves over time, we will see; my thumb rides the slide stop often precluding the last shot slide open; the grip texture verges on being too aggressive and can be uncomfortable in long range sessions; the backstrap is retained by a roll pin which can be difficult to remove. Accuracy is good but not great. Similar to glock, inferior to PPQ
Pros: ergonomics are great; grip angle is natural; trigger is good but many have stated is equal to the PPQ which I do not agree, it has what feels like a long initial pull before the "wall", I don't have a way to measure this, it feels "creepy" during this initial pull and not as good of an initial pull as the PPQ; short trigger reset
These are only my opinions and in comparison to glock. I wish that I could choose elements from all three. I would have probably bought the PPQ and P10C regardless, but I would have appreciated more honesty in the reviews. I was able to handle the PPQ but not shoot it prior to purchase and I bought the P10C unseen.
I hope my review may provide fair balance to someone on the fence about either of these two pistols. Describing the feel of a trigger is very difficult and I used the best adjectives I could to describe the feel.
Reading the gun magazines and watching multiple reviews on YouTube gun channels enticed me to buy the PPQ and most recently the P10C. Both of these pistols are very good and I enjoy shooting both. I had not expected to get an completely unbiased opinion from these sources but I have to say the negatives of these new striker fired, polymer pistols were not discussed in adequate detail for an informed decision.
All these pistols I believe are very reliable so I will not discuss this.
Glock:
Cons: grip angle we are all familiar with requires significant wrist canting (can be mastered - I have never understood not being able to get the gun to point for desired shot placement); Gen 3 grip texture is poor; trigger is not stellar; sights are cheap plastic; accuracy is acceptable but not stellar; chamber support not optimal in high pressure rounds
Pros: low bore axis, manageable recoil impulse, still the giant in striker fired for a reason
PPQ:
Cons: sights are cheap plastic; higher bore axis increases recoil impulse and delays time back to target; my thumb rides the slide stop often precluding the last shot slide open
Pros: ergonomics are great; grip angle is natural; grip feels great; trigger is the best of the 3 in my opinion - outstanding crisp smooth pull and short reset. The pull before the wall does not feel as long as the P10C. Accuracy is superb. Multiple shooters in rested and unrested positions have validated this.
P10C:
Cons: The controls for magazine release and slide stop are VERY stiff and difficult to operate. I have read (see comments above) that this improves over time, we will see; my thumb rides the slide stop often precluding the last shot slide open; the grip texture verges on being too aggressive and can be uncomfortable in long range sessions; the backstrap is retained by a roll pin which can be difficult to remove. Accuracy is good but not great. Similar to glock, inferior to PPQ
Pros: ergonomics are great; grip angle is natural; trigger is good but many have stated is equal to the PPQ which I do not agree, it has what feels like a long initial pull before the "wall", I don't have a way to measure this, it feels "creepy" during this initial pull and not as good of an initial pull as the PPQ; short trigger reset
These are only my opinions and in comparison to glock. I wish that I could choose elements from all three. I would have probably bought the PPQ and P10C regardless, but I would have appreciated more honesty in the reviews. I was able to handle the PPQ but not shoot it prior to purchase and I bought the P10C unseen.
I hope my review may provide fair balance to someone on the fence about either of these two pistols. Describing the feel of a trigger is very difficult and I used the best adjectives I could to describe the feel.