P3AT Mini Review

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Good Day Folks,

Recently I picked up a new Keltec P3 AT as an answer to the days where I just can't dress appropriately to carry a larger Handgun. As you can see from this picture, the Keltec P3A-AT fits this need nicely. Not much larger than my keys, yet it packs a nice punch with 6 +1 rounds. I'm writing this from a viewpoint that everyone is a little familiar with the gun..or at least the looks of the Keltec, so I won't go into too much detail there.

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Until now, my history with Keltec has been pretty dismal. My previous Keltec P-32 was plagued with problems, notably rust, failure to eject and best of all, the magazine release button spring popped out with the first round fired. The notion of sending it back to the factory didn't appeal to me, so I ended up selling it to someone with a full disclosure of the problems.

I gave Kel Tec one more try because I believe that guns sometimes have a "spirit". Some are good luck while some have a demon in them that refuses to listen to us. Well, this one must have been a good one because we had a little conversation and I made it plain that she would be at the bottom of the river if she failed me!

Initial Impressions.

Workmanship was decent and the parkerized slide gave it a nice utilitarian feel to it. The rifling is ok, but a bit rough in the grooves where it looks like there are some marks. The chamber is also a bit rough inside and could use a polishing, but as I would find out later, why fix something that isn't broken? I only had two main complaints. The first was that the mag release button extended too far out, causing it to release the mag in the holster, a Galco Stow n Go inside the pant holster. I ended up filing until the button was almost flush with the frame. Now it releases with direct finger pressure, but not if I put my thumb over the entire release.The second complaint was the ejector. Why in the world they made it so that it could fall out when disassembled, I don't know except for the ease of replacement. So if when you disassemble one, make sure you know it's still there!



Shooting the Kel Tec

This Shoot n C target shows seven rounds at seven yards from the target. Not super, but just right for what I need and the intended ranges.

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In total I fired 100 Winchester 95gr FMJ and 20 Speer Gold Dot 90gr JHPs. Recoil was brisk but nothing that anyone couldn't handle. Ejection was positive....extremely positive! Empties flew up and slightly to the right, about 7 feet up. I shoot at a covered range and the empties were flying up onto the roofing. Sort of reminded me of my AK slinging brass. I also caught one in the forehead ala glock style when I intentionally limpwristed to test the weapon. As for problems...other than 3 failures to fully return to battery in the first 50 rounds, I had no problems. All three of those were associated with limp wristing on my part when my hand got tired. Other than that...zero problems! At count 80 I decided to limpwrist with an entire magazine. Other than pelting my own self with empty brass, I experienced zero malfunctions. Now I do not advocate nor do I intend to say that the weapon will not malfunction this way..I just wanted to see what would happen.

On another note, I need to take the time to color in the "sights", or what little there is of them. Unless I took the time to deliberately aim at the target, all of the shots would hit high. The way the gun sits in your hand makes you point it a bit high unless you make a conscious effort to drop the muzzle a bit.

I did not test the ammo in any formal penetration tests. However, these pictures show that the .380 95gr FMJ penetrated completely through a 2x6 board. Not scientific...but definitely there in the OUCH! factor.

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I'd say this one is a keeper. She does well despite the not so smooth chamber and rifling. Reliable and accurate enough for my needs. The only serious downfall I see is that I end up taking this thing with me everywhere...even when I know I can carry a bigger handgun. I need to break myself of that habit, but it's so easy to do with the small Kel Tec!
 
Red, thanks for the great review!

I have been contemplating the purchase of a P3AT, but was discouraged at how cheap it felt in my hand. Thanks for giving me some assurance that it will actually go "bang" and hit where you point it.
 
Red,

My wallet thanks you.

Got one at lunch today. I bought the nickel version. Obviously haven't fired it yet, but wanted a good BUG. This seems to be it. Thanks for the review.
 
grip add-on

Get one of the smallest size (handall jr I think) Hogue slip on grips.
It makes a huge difference for me at least.

Kel-Tec also makes a lot of accessories to "customize"
I love my little Kel-Tecs. So easy to conceal.
 
I love mine. no problems to date but then again I only shoot 50-100 rounds every week or two. Mine is very accurate for what it is.
My suggestion is to get the +1 mag extension as it will give your ring finger more to grip.
 
You will soon find that P-3AT's like company

*Dr. Evil voice* Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat.

First 1911s...then ARs...now pocket pistols.

Tell me this...does this sickness ever end. just when I think I've got everything that I want...I'm infected again.
 
*Dr. Evil voice* Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat.

First 1911s...then ARs...now pocket pistols.

Tell me this...does this sickness ever end. just when I think I've got everything that I want...I'm infected again.

It ends when your body assumes room temperature.-:)
 
It ends when your body assumes room temperature.-

So it isn't a phase?

Oh man...my wife is going to be crushed.

She has seen me go through phases on the past. RC helicopters - fizzled out after about 2 months. Collecting 1:24 diecast - fizzled out after about 10 months. Video games - hasn't really fizzled out, but activity has dropped significantly in last two years.

And then two years ago...guns.

Have bought 10 in the last year. I think she was convinced that I would someday get past it and not buy anymore...but I'm learning that the more I buy...the more I want. Bad, man...bad.

To make matters worse, I'm not contemplating getting into the NFA arena by purchasing a can for one of my ARs. I'm sure that will touch off another phase of this disease!
 
Go Hard Chrome!

As I prepared to purchase my P3AT, I was strongly pushed to the hard chromed model. The store owner stated that he had never seen the chrome ones fail, but noted that the blued models not only failed continually, moreover, about 30% of them had to be returned to the factory. Take heart if you bought a blue one that is unreliable, you can have the slide hard chromed.

My own P3AT is ultra-accurate, and had literally never failed. The sole downside, the grip is small and can present a challenge to hold. The recoil is sharp. I like mine for its intended purposes. Summer dress or winter dress where the conditions simply do not permit wearing a full-sized pistol.

Doc2005
 
The sole downside, the grips is small and can present a challenge to hold.

Get a Bersa or NAA mag extender. They really help.

http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/p3at-fingerrest.htm

Also, the chrome is a fairly slick surface and may help contribute to reliability due to lack of or loss of lube and/or powder residue build-up. These little pistol are less forgiving than larger, heavier pistols in regardless to lube / powder residue so they need to be kept clean and well-lubed.
 
Add some lips

I just added finger lip extensions (gotta be a better term) to both my P3AT mags and my P32 mags. I used the NAA Guardian parts. Only a slight modification (nail clippers) to the plastic spring base makes them work perfectly. Improves the grip a lot. They were 2 for $10
 
The store owner stated that he had never seen the chrome ones fail, but noted that the blued models not only failed continually, moreover, about 30% of them had to be returned to the factory.

I've had a blued/parked P3AT for year or two, with no problems. Prior to that I had a P-11 for several years, again with no problems. (Later tried other non-DAO small guns, and now use the P3AT or a Kahr P9.)

I find it hard to believe that the FINISH on the slide (hard chrome vs. parkerized) is going to have that much to do with overall performance. That has not been what I've heard from many Kel-Tec users.

My only complaint about the P3AT is that I'd like a larger trigger guard. I don't find the recoil bad, at all, but the trigger guard KILLS my trigger finger during recoil -- pushing back on it. (Long fingers.)
 
So it isn't a phase?

This is no phase. I gone through phases with "toys". Guns are here to stay. My wife has tried to institute a "one in - one out" policy, but it hasn't been entirely successful :evil:

I think I can circumvent that policy when it comes to getting a P3AT. Especially when the local pawn and gun has a really good layaway plan.
 
2,200 rounds? WOW!

Considering Wincherster USA 95gr FMJ's go for over $20 a box 0f 100...we are looking at $440.00 in ammo out of a $250.00 pistol!:D

I doubt if I ever get that close. I'll just stick to a couple mags a month for familiarity once I get past the 250rd mark with mine.

Good Shooting
Red
 
Hard Chromed vs. Blued

I noticed Doc2005's discussion about the hard chromed P3ATs. Does anyone else have some experience with the hard chromed models? Are they more reliable? Are they worth an extra $45-50 or so?

Danny
 
I haven't got a hard chromed model P3AT KEL-TEC, but I do own a new
parkerized version. Truthfully speaking, its not been to the range just
yet; but hopefully, that will change real soon. I bought it for the same
basic reasons that Red and other's did- to carry on days when
carrying a larger weapon is not an option. It gets really hot here in Old
Dixie'Land during the summer months (June-July-August), and the dress
of the day is usually shorts and golf shirt; so the little, lightweight KEL-
TEC will come in mighty handy~! :D

Thanks for the great report Red~!:)
 
Are they [hard chromed P3ATs] more reliable? Are they worth an extra $45-50 or so?

I don't see how a finish (i.e., a very, very thin metal coating) is going to really change reliability all that much, especially when ONLY the slide is hard-chromed.

Get it if you like the looks, or if you has a concern about corrosion in your local climate... Otherwise, I'd argue its a non-issue.
 
re PT-3AT

Hi
I have the KT P32 and I put the +1 extension from Kel Tec on the magazine. It makes it much easier to get a good grip on the gun. It has been 100% reliable.:)
 
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