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Paranoia or preparation?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Dave Workman, Nov 8, 2008.

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  1. Dave Workman

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    This is a survey. Short answers please. NO THREAD DRIFT, please.

    For the past four days, I've been monitoring gun forums and gun sales.

    There is a lot of buying going on
    There is a lot of talking (some of it easy chair bluster, of course) going on.


    The question is simple:

    Do you consider all the buying right now "Paranoia" or "Preparation?"

    (both terms should be self explanatory, and if not, just use your imagination)

    Try to keep responses to 25-50 words, correctly spelled please.

    In the event the thread gets locked (can't imagine why): Post me off-list at:

    davew@liberty.seanet.com
     
  2. Just Jim

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    Neither, people just want things before they get too exspensive. Leading questions are not nice......

    jj
     
  3. rugerfreak

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  4. Just Jim

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    You are leading people to say things that can be used against them and this forum, not a good idea.

    jj
     
  5. CRITGIT

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    I doubt it really goes as far as paranoia but it's certainly insecurity.
    It's not unusual for folks to be afraid of what they don't understand however it can be extremely dangerous.

    CRITGIT
     
  6. Just Jim

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    I think the people have a great understanding of the situation. Why else would people spend so much money to buy stuff when the economy is going to tank bigtime???

    jj
     
  7. Treo

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    I think paranoia or preperation depends on the individual doing the buying. I've not bought a single gun behind this election but I am snapping up magazines, ammunition and looking into reloading.

    Also I don't see this as a leading question.
     
  8. Just Jim

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    Hi Treo,

    It is a leading question that will get the unthinking to say things that can be used against them and this forum. Guy says he is buying in preperation for the revolution and automaticly it is information that could be used in a court of law.

    Better read those 4473s when they ask if you are buying guns for what purpose. If you buy a gun after making a civil war statement and deny it on the form it may be a felony???

    jj
     
  9. DaveBeal

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    I don't think any one factor explains all currrent buying, but I do think that many folks on this forum are greatly overestimating the threat posed to gun ownership by the Obama administration.
     
  10. Just Jim

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    Biden wrote the AWB. Imanual was Clintons guy in charge. BHO has a history of gun controls. If it walks like a duck and....

    jj
     
  11. DoubleTapDrew

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    We won't know for a few years. Right now it's paranoia, and hopefully that's all it will be. If they pass laws restricting any of these things and they get prohibitively expensive or unavailable, then it turns out it was preparation (and I'm referring to a cost/availability standpoint. Not preparation for anything illegal).
    Paranoia is definitely annoying. Can't get things you'd like because everyone is sold out. Price skyrockets on the next shipment because people will still pay it. :banghead:
     
  12. Officers'Wife

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    Perhaps neither, simply seeing the increase of prices after the first AWB and preparing for rise if another is passed. Third choice- financial speculation.

    Selena
     
  13. distra

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    Both, we are paranoid about having a new AWB and we are preparing for it. It is just that simple. No more, no less.
     
  14. makarovnik

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    It's both and the gun shops are loving it. In some places gun prices are out of control. I won't fall for it. I'll wait until everyone comes to their senses and gun prices come down again. Of course prices will stay high as long as people are willing to pay ridiculous prices.

    I'm about ready to start up the mill and lathe and make my own.
     
  15. jakemccoy

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    Here's the correct answer.

    The current state of affairs is a good excuse for a gun owner to buy all the things the gun owner wanted to buy anyway. A gun enthusiast doesn't normally need an excuse to buy what the gun enthusiast wants. However, now, there's a legitimate reason to buy. So, motivation is thrown into the mix where motivation isn't even needed. Boom, sales go up. I highly doubt anybody except a gun enthusiast is stockpiling.
     
  16. Officers'Wife

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    Hi makarovnik,

    Just be sure that you contact the BATF and get the appropriate licenses. Then, of course, most states also have regulations on the manufacturing of firearms and firearms parts and a few actually require permits and accounting. Then you need to research the local codes to make sure you aren't violating any zoning laws or your county sheriff's sensitivities. With luck you should be able to obtain all the relevant licenses, permits and permissions in time to donate to Obama's second election campaign. Do not expect to have any luck.

    Selena
     
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    What's not to understand, my prediction is within 6 months a renewal of the AWB, additional taxes on ammunition and/or firearms to drive the prices out of reach, 1 year a start on a complete ban of certain semiautos and attempt to ban handguns without smart technology (to protect the children you know). Just because you are paranoid does not mean they aren't out to get you.

    The dem's have a firm majority on both houses, and I doubt we can rely on the republicans to filibuster every bill relating to reducing our 2nd amendment rights.
     
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    No, the terms are not "self explanatory" and if you want any meaningful responses the members shouldn't have to use their imaginations to fill in the blanks.

    Rephrase the question in a meaningful manner. Paranoia about what? Unreasonably fearful of an AWB? When that might be anticipated is pretty critical in knowing whether the fears of an AWB are reasonable or not right now. Preparation for what? Preparing for an inevitable AWB? Again, when determines whether that AWB is expected and when it is expected determines whether the rush is preparing or not.

    You should rephrase the question in a meaningful manner and repost it.
     
  19. sd

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    preparation.

    prices are not going to go down.

    political environment will not be favorable for a long time. liberal president, liberal house, liberal senate, soon to be liberal court.
    in-fighting among conservatives, in-fighting even among gun owners. fuds, profiteering, paranoia vs. prep,ect.
    tell me you don't see ammo prices increasing? don't see AWB, hi-cap mag ban, ect. ?
     
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    Yeah, I think that paranoia is ruled out by Obama's stated goal on his website that he wants to enact a permanant AWB. That and the fact that he has a majority in both Houses. He will do whatever he wants either sooner or later. Soon is two months, later is well inside of four years.

    I don't mean to spur the panic buying but I doubt the conditions are going to get much better. I haven't bought anything new and doubt I will. Anyone who is hoarding is creating high prices and shortages.

    If I stock up on anything, it will be some reloading goods for longterm security.
     
  21. Dave Workman

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    Oh, I dunno. I seem to be doing just fine with the question the way it is.
     
  22. benEzra

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    Neither. "Precaution" would be a better word, IMO.

    I am not buying a whole lot, but I am planning to go ahead and thread the barrel of my SAR-1 just on the off chance that a new AWB gets passed. I was burned badly by the original 1994 Feinstein law, when I put off the purchase of a folding stock for my mini-14 due to financial reasons in mid-1994 and then had to wait 10 years (until October '04) to get one, due to the passage of the 1994 Feinstein law. And my wife paid $100+ for a single Glock 19 magazine circa 1996 because I lacked the foresight to buy a couple in 1994.

    It is not "paranoia" to want to avoid getting burned like that again, even if the passage of a new ban is unlikely.

    Nor is it really "preparation," because I am not expecting anything to happen. I am just being prudent, IMO.
     
  23. Sepia

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    I have to agree with benEzra that its a precaution. While its unlikely that within the first 4 years he will try any drastic measures towards a new ban, since he will be trying to get elected to another 4 years, it is a precaution that people are wanting to take just encase he does.
     
  24. Walkalong

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    Paranoid preparation. ;)

    hso made an excellent point. You would get better answers if you were more clear.

    Paranoid about what?

    Preparing for what?
     
  25. jpatterson

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    I think (rather hope) that it is just paranoia. I hope that all THR members will be able to look back on our Nov. 4th freak-out as another "Y2K world collapse" purchase.
     
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