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Pat Tillmans Brother Speaks...

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Autolycus, Oct 20, 2006.

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  1. Autolycus

    Autolycus Member

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    Link to Letter

    I can only say that it is refreshing to hear the words straight from a soldier and a true patriot.
     
  2. TexasRifleman

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    Oh God..... :rolleyes:

    I propose we shut down L&P until AFTER the election.

    Off topic, no gun content, out of place, etc etc................ Again

    Questionable source on top of that, and this shows up at no other new organization.
    Good chance it's not even authentic.
     
  3. Biker

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    Relevant in any case...

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  4. beerslurpy

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    Uh, what happened to the big stink about him being shot by his own squad because he was too much of a hero and they didnt want to get killed due to his hunger for medals?
     
  5. crucible

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    Relevant just as long as it's understood that reasonable people can and do disagree with many points in the letter-including ones who have skin in the game-and who's opinions are just as valid as anyone else's, including Mr. Tillman's brother.

    C-
     
  6. WayneConrad

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    You gotta be a justice of the SCOTUS to manage the mental gymnastics required for this to be related to firearms and civil rights.
     
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    was he a army ranger or a power ranger,i know girl scouts with more guts than him
     
  8. WayneConrad

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    Do we do ourselves any honor by maligning the dead? Come on, fellas... THR, remember?
     
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    crucible

    well, said, and a very reasonable response...
     
  10. Biker

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    Who are you speaking of, George, and why are you so close to Girl Scouts?


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  11. ceetee

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    I tend to agree with much of the content of the letter. I also want to have something to show that Kevin Tillman actually wrote the letter, before I take it at face value that he did.
     
  12. DouglasW

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    Nothing on snopes.com, yet.

    I'll take a wait-and-see attitude on the veracity of this one.

    And I agree...quite off-topic, but that doesn't mean we do ourselves or THR any good by disparaging the dead.
     
  13. Autolycus

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/magazine/09/05/tillman0911/

    I am reading it right now. Its a Sports Illustrated article.

     
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    History

    I would like to first start by saying thanks to the Tillmans for their service in our military. I would also like to say that I do not agree with some if not most of the content of the letter.

    Who is to know that what they (U.S. Leadership) are doing is the “right” thing to do? In my opinion only history can tell us. I am sure there are a lot of people in the THR that can express this better than I can, and more likely correct me when I am wrong, but history has a way of proving us “right” or “wrong”

    During the French revolution many people thought that they were “right” when they executed many of their fellow Frenchmen. We look back now and see what a great tragedy this was and how many lives were lost to an idea what went very wrong. How about when many “Christians” were put to death in Rome? At the time the people love it…now we look back with discuss. Or maybe the idea the world had when Hitler started invading Austria and we thought that we would let him take this one country and maybe he will stop. How many lives could have been saved if we would have stopped him then? How about when we dropped the bombs of Japan…did we take needless lives or did we save lives? The people up in Massachusetts who put all of the so called “witches” to death…where their lives needlessly lost?

    I could go on with more examples, but I will not. All I am trying to point out is that the above mentioned examples were full of well meaning people who thought that they were doing the “right” thing. History tells us that some leaders of the world did do the right thing, and it also is full of examples of leaders doing the “wrong” thing.

    Are we doing the right thing by being in Iraq? Only history will tell us.
     
  15. OldBillThundercheif

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    As I recall he was not killed by his own squad, but rather by trigger-happy national guardsmen attempting to "help".

    I could be wrong, though. With all the misinformation that was flung around after the incident who knows what actually happened...
     
  16. 50 Freak

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    Hey he and his brother volunteered to join the army and fight for this country. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED HE HAS A RIGHT TO VOICE HIS OPINION ANY DAMN WAY HE WANTS.

    Some of us here who critize his opinion and question his mettle should look in the mirror themselves.

    As for myself. He does bring up some good points, some I do not agree with but neverless it is something to think about.
     
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    Holy Hell, I've never even remotely been aroused to the level of genuinely PO'ed by something I've read on the net. But damn George, where have you served?
     
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    If he wants to disagree about whether we should be in this war, fine. The underlined part however shows to me that he is a moron, and not worth listening to. I have to admit, I always sigh when I hear the lefty-moonbats scream about how illegal this war is. I am STILL waiting for them to show me where in USC this war is illegal.

    .45Guy, one need not serve to have an opinion. I personally do not think he is gutless, but lacking in the thinking department.
     
  19. .45Guy

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    Opinion is one thing, but to call a man a coward for voicing his opinions, you better damn well have had boots on the ground before I'll take you seriously.
     
  20. Biker

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    Yup...George is indeed a Bad Man. We're on the same page, .45Guy.

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  21. .45Guy

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    Thanks Biker:)
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    Sorry, but OT. Better at APS.

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