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Patton was Right 60 years ago!!!

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  1. The Last Confederate

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    There are all kinds of low class slime who are trying and will continue to try to wreck this country from the inside. Most of them don't know it, but they are actually working for the Russians. Some of them do know it, though. It doesn't matter whether they call themselves communists, socialists, or just plain foolish liberals. They are destroying this country.

    --George S. Patton


    The one thing that I could not say, and cannot yet say publicly, is that my chief interest in establishing order in Germany was to prevent Germany from going communist. I am afraid that our foolish and utterly stupid policy in regard to Germany will certainly cause them to join the Russians and thereby insure a communistic state throughout Western Europe.

    --George S. Patton


    Ike ordered Patton to withdraw his men from several position, saying that those positions ‘belong to the Russians’. Patton said ‘that ground is ours, Americans died taking it from the Germans.’ Eisenhower replied,

    ‘that’s not part of the plan.’

    ‘What plan?’, Patton demanded.
    Eisenhower, never answered that question.

    When I get home, I am going to through with my plans to resign from the Army. I’m going to do it with a statement that will be remembered a long time. If it doesn’t make headlines, I will be surprised. I am determined to be free to live my own way of life, and I’m going to make that unforgettably clear.

    --George S. Patton

    Within less than a week of that statement, on December 9th, 1945 Patton’s neck was broken in a bizarre auto accident. He later died on the 21st of December. From that day forward many ‘conspiracy’ tales started to emerge. In my opinion, based upon the materials available to me, only two of them seem likely.


    Patton's death Summary:

    Patton wanted war with Russia to free Europe
    Patton became aware of a ‘plan’ among allied high-command to destroy Germany
    Patton resist said ‘plan’ to the best of his ability
    Patton was aware of the POW/hostage situation with Moscow
    Patton was aware of the forced ‘repatriation’ of Russians to their deaths
    Patton became aware of the Yalta provisions and the implications
    Patton threatens to tell America of our betrayal of American POWs
    Patton understanding there are enemies within as well as with out decides to resign and 'blow the lid' on the scandal
    Patton threatens to tell America of our betrayal of Europe to communism
    Patton ‘dies’ in some little hospital after an ‘accident’ and is forgotten
     
  2. Kamicosmos

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    I need to read up on Patton. Anyone have any recommendations? Preferably maybe an autobiography by him, and a biography by someone else? Something that will give me a look at him from both sides. It seems like Patton is a love/hate sorta deal. People either seem to think he was 'The Man' or he was a crackpot.
     
  3. The Last Confederate

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    Essential Reading:

    The Unknown Patton
    Charles M. Province
    Bonanza Books, 1984
    ISBN: 0517455951

    The Memoirs of General Mark Clark
    Military Review Press, 1961

    Raid! The Untold Story of Patton’s Secret Mission
    Richard Baron
    Academic Press, 1981
    ISBN: 0399125973

    This book is worth its weight in gold!
    Soldiers of Misfortune
    Washington’s Secret Betrayal of American POWs in the Soviet Union
    James D. Sanders
    National Press Books, 1992
    ISBN: 0915765837

    If you would like more sources just PM me, but those above are the major ones.
     
  4. ACP230

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    Check out War As I Knew It by Gen. George S. Patton.

    He's wrong about the sights on the M1 Garand, but aside from that it's a good book.
     
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    Excellent! Thanks guys. I'm going to start working a night shift soon, so this will give me some reading to have during the slow times.
     
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    Now what is so bizarre about a staff car smacking into the side of a 2 1/2 truck that pulled out of side road? These types of accidents happen everyday here in Metro Detroit.

    Patton died becasue he was thrown forward quickly in the rear seat of his staff car because they had no restraints at the time.
     
  7. Blackcloud6

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    Well, as it turns out no Western European state became communist. (althought the French and Italians came close a few times, but that was their own doing)
     
  8. Ryan1021

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    There is a conspiracy theory out there that Patton was killed before he could talk.
     
  9. Sam Adams

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    To know Patton, one MUST get ahold of the 2-volume set "The Patton Papers" by Martin Blumenson. The first volume covers 1885-1940, the 2nd from 1940-45. These books are almost entirely his own words, usually in letters or diary entries. Both can be had for lots less than cover price by buying used via Amazon.

    Patton's accident was a bit bizarre, but it was an accident. He was sitting in the rear of a luxury car that had been drafted to ferry high-ranking officers and was without a seatbelt. The car smacked into a truck. He was thrown forward, and his head hit the metal grating that protected the light on the interior ceiling of the car. The force of the blow to the grating broke it, and the part of it that remained attached to the ceiling hooked into his scalp, preventing his head from moving toward the front of the car, and the momentum compressed and fractured his neck, paralyzing him. Without the grating, he might have had a headache, a broken bone or two, or just had the wind knocked out of him. Dying paralyzed in a hospital bed was about the last way that Patton would have chosen to die (he wanted to go out when leading his troops in battle), but that's how it happened.

    One of my fantasies is to time travel and alter history. This is one of the events that I would try to prevent. I'd have loved to have seen how history would have turned out differently had Patton lived to talk. Perhaps Truman wouldn't have been re-elected?

    BTW, there's an interesting movie with George Kennedy as Patton (he sucks, compared to George C. Scott) called "Brass Target." It also involves a conspiracy, this time having to do with a train full of gold and artwork that disappeared (while the train was in territory that Patton commanded). The greatest part of the movie was when Patton/Kennedy said something to a Russian general about "finding all of that gold and shoving it up your Red Commie @$$, one brick at a time."
     
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    Wasn't Patton, then a Major, (along with Eisenhower and MacArthur) involved in the Bonus March fiasco in 1932?
     
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    Yep, all three of them were involved in running the Bonus Army out of the park across from the White House. One of the darker moments of U.S. history that people either don't know about or choose to ignore.
     
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    Patton was a wild man, but history has proven his views of the commies correct. For the past decade, more and more revelations from former Soviet secret files have shown that there WAS INDEED a network of traitors in the UK and US governmnet working for Stalin. Including many the left long claimed had been unjustly persecuted.

    The book I'm reading now is a "what if" novel looking at what might have taken place if Patton had lived and we had gone to war with the USSR in the late 1940's.
     
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    Don't forget McCarthy; he was right too!!!

    http://www.cafepress.com/rightminded.9258807
     
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    If you want to read about Patton here is the first and maybe #1 thing you should read of his. I think this should be required reading in our schools.
    There is an introduction discussing the history and background of this speech such as where the transcript was found after having been lost. If you just want to read the speech, scroll down th "Part II".

    Warning to those at work with internet filters-- Patton was "an artist who worked in profanity the way other artists work in oil or clay. It was his true medium." (1) Here he weaves a masterful tapestry of obscenities.

    General Patton's Address to the Troops

    (1) Jean Shepherd's A Christmas Story
     
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    Cosmo - Title of book? Thanks.
     
  17. Joe Demko

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    If we're praising the likes of McCarthy, we should also be giving kudos to Father Coughlin. :rolleyes:
     
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    Joe McCarthy was a patriot, and he was right, despite his vilification by our own internal enemies. Socialism/Communism has failed everywhere it's been tried because it's completely counterproductive and dehumanizing. The Western world will discover this truth in the years to come, hopefully the U.S. will not have to undergo the process with them.
     
  19. Joe Demko

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    It wasn't McCarthy's or Coughlin's assessment of communism that was wrong.
     
  20. R.H. Lee

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    To make an omelet, you have to break a few eggs. :p
     
  21. Joe Demko

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    Yeah, you do. Stalin is supposed to be the one who coined that phrase.;)
     
  22. R.H. Lee

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    Which is exactly why I used it. Back atcha........:neener:
     
  23. Joe Demko

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    Touche´.

    Wait...that's French...

    I mean Tushie... no...that's not what I mean either.:evil:
     
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    I think Lenin made the omelet statement, not Stalin. Stalin might have picked it up.
     
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