"Peacemakers" on USA Network

[ReadyontheRight]

OK -- In the promo for "Peacemakers" on the USA network, Tom Berenger looks like he plays an old West Sheriff or Marshall.

He loads what looks like .45 long colt rounds into a revolver and SPINS THE CYLINDER like in a DA revolver. I've never handled a Colt Peacemaker or any SA revolver -- does the cylinder spin, or are they already being historically inaccurate in the commercial?

Other than that, I hope it's a good show. A good new Western would be great.

 

[Hkmp5sd]

Don't know about the Colt Peacemaker itself, but on SA revolvers, you can pull the hammer back slightly and spin the cylinder.

 

[Archie]

Good grief, YES.

In the loading position, the cylinder will turn freely in one direction only, clockwise. The hand acts as a ratchet to stop anti-clockwise rotation. That is in fact how they are loaded, one hole (chamber) at a time.

 

[Double Maduro]

In order to leave an empty chamber under the hammer I heard that you load one then skip one and keep going until you have 5 rounds loaded.

Anyone else hear this and does it work?

DM

 

[Hkmp5sd]

Anyone else hear this and does it work?

It is unnecessary. Just load the five cartridges and rotate the cylinder around before releasing the hammer.

 

[ReadyontheRight]

Sorry guys. I always thought SA revolvers were a lot more difficult to load. I'l have to check one out.

Again, I hope it's a good show.

 

[rick newland]

Hkmp5sd the colts don't work that way, you would still have to bring the hammer all the way back which would rotate the cy and you would place the hammer on a live round. Bring hammer back to second notch, load one, skip one, load five, cock hammer all the way back then ride it down on an empty chamer.

 

[Hkmp5sd]

the cylinder will turn freely in one direction only, clockwise.

Actually, that's not true for all revolvers. It depends on the manufacturer. Some rotate in one direction and others in the opposite direction.

Hkmp5sd the colts don't work that way,

That's why I said, "not sure about the Colt...." I have never owned a Colt revolver.

 

[rick newland]

I messed that up, load one, skip one, load four, pull hammer back then ease it down, it will be on an empty chamber.

 

[Mal H]

I just watched 1/2 hour of it and had the choice of falling asleep from boredom or turning to Hannity and Colmes. H&C won.

 

[FPrice]

It's not an old-fashioned western but it is pretty good. I've always liked Tom Berenger and I think this is going to be a good show.

 

[Dr.Rob]

CSI meets Gunsmoke. Shoot'em up was limited to berenger shooting the gun out of a guy's hand (ugh) though he looked suprised as if "how the heck did that happen" could have been a call back to his first western, Rustler's Rhapsody. Next gunplay was a dissgrunted pistol shot out of his hand rapist re-entering bar, Winchester blazing. (From the hip). Of course the stalwart Brit guy flicks a knife intothe guy from 20 feet away. (Ugh)

Later, Berenger is tie up and ready to be dragged behind a horse along rail tracks (yay) but he is saved in the nick of time by a well intentioned black irregular 'deputy' with a mean looking sawed-off shotgun (yay). Berenger dispatches third guy with his own knife. (ouch)

Some later fisticuffs ensue, and Berenger shoots at a guy on a moving train with a handgun (where did my rifle go?)

All in all, a lighthearted attempt at giving Marshall Dillon a Dr. Watson. Not too bad, but not great. Lots of shows start slow.

 

[six 4 sure]

Well

I think anything is better than the reality crap that dominates the other channels. I didn’t think it was too bad.

six

 

[rick newland]

Thought it was more of a CSI/In the heat of the night show, fancy detective comes to the aid of hick town marshall. I agree better then most of the crap on tv.

 

[Jeff Timm]

Am I the only one around here who remembers Hec Ramsey?

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0068077

Richard Boone (ex-Paladin) and Rick Lentz.

The old guy Boone, was the scientific detective and Lentz was the modern Police Chief with little real experience. Good show, but Boones health didn't hold up.

Geoff
Who carefully noted the short barrel .45 Peacemaker.

 

[Norm357]

I liked the show and was ammused by Tom Berrengers shoulder holster.


Norm

 

[Hkmp5sd]

Am I the only one around here who remembers Hec Ramsey?

Nope. Used to love that show.

 

[cslinger]

It was a little slow at the start and in the long run I don't think it will last but I found it pretty enjoyable. I mean it's no history lesson but the concept is fun and I liked how they showed both the Pinkerton's skills vs. the Marshalls skills and how both had merit.

I also liked the fact that the double barrel shotgun only shot TWICE and that the single actions never fired more than 4 rounds. Now that might change in later episodes where gunfights may be more prevalent but hey it was a good start.

Now as for the guy with the lever action not being able to hit anything at say 20', I'm gonna have to say he must have been drunk........really drunk.......like falling down, blurry eyed, bordering on coma drunk. I mean come on four or five rounds and he hits nothing but the wall in a crowded bar. I guess that was really my only pet peeve, I just think they could have written that scene better.

I think there is some chemistry between the three main characters and that is good for a first episode.

All in all I give it a thumbs up. Fun escapism and who doesn't like a little single action army action now and then.

Did you notice in the standoff at the beginning of the episode the guy they arrest as a suspect doesn't have his hamemr back on his gun. Wonder if this was an error or done on purpose to try and show that he really wasn't out to hurt anybody. Yeah yeah I know it was an accident.

Chris

 

[Waitone]

Lemme see here! Show is set in 1880's IIRC mountain states about the time scientific investigation techniques come into play.

So the way show designers emphasize the historical setting is play Miami Vice back ground music!

Come on guys! Change the music. It distracted from the plot (which does need a little work).

 

[Correia]

I liked it and figure it has potential.

But then again I don't expect History Channel accuracy on a USA network detective/cowboy show. Come on guys, lighten up a bit!

 

[longeyes]

Okay, I know nothing about single-action revolvers. Is it possible
to shoot by fanning the hammer with your weak hand with a single-
action or is that Hollywood stuff?

 

[cslinger]

Fanning.

Yes you can fan a single action revolver and let me tell you it can empty six rounds faster than a semi auto with the right gun and right operator.

Apparently the new guns with transfer bars are not designed for this at all but I don't exactly know why nor have I thought to look into it.

I don't fan my Single Action, I would probably end up shooting somebody or something I didn't want to. I have seen people who can do it and do it well.

Come to think of it, think Bob Mundan. The man is insane with a Single Action. Parlor tricks or not the man can run a single action faster than a blink of an eye.

Chris

 

[Alan Smithiee]

you can fan a SA like that, but you can't hit the wall 3 feet in front of you. watch how the top CAS shooters do it, left thumb works the hammer, left fingers around right hand around grip (and variants there of)

and with Colt Army style SA's you have to half cock, load one, skip one, load four to come down on a a empty chamber, with Rugers and other you can open the gate and load 5 with the hammer down to have it down on a empty chamber (and you don't HAVE to do that if you have the new model Rugers with the transfer safety bar (but it never hurts), but thats not CAS legal, but we do load up with 6 when carrying Rugers for hunting or other reasons


(and while double checking the load sequence, I noticed that the screws holding the grip to the frame were loose, so let THAT be a lesson as well)

 

[Mute]

Not bad for a TV show and better than most of the crap available nowadays.

 

[JDSlack]

Norm 357,

What amused you about the shoulder holster? Just curious, not flaming.

It looked to me to be similar to the one J. Wesly Hardin supposedly wore. From my reading about some gunmen in the post civil war West several wore them (an early NYC reload), Hardin, Holliday Studemire among others.

And THANK YOU, Mr. Timm, I have been trying to remember Hec Ramsey for over a week. You have restored my sanity....well, sorta.