Pike County, Illinois tells state that they will not recognize anti-2a laws
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doc2rn
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'bout time! Those guys got any empty houses around there? I would move there after I graduate to show my support. Hopefully we will see more people following their lead.
armoredman
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62 of 102 counties told Chigao to get stuffed, and nobody outside of here noticed? I wonder how much money and political capital the Chicago Machine is having to pay out to the Mass Media to snuff THIS story. Wow.
I hope this quiet ground swell eventually gives Chicago what it has needed for a looooong time - a political earthquake.
I hope this quiet ground swell eventually gives Chicago what it has needed for a looooong time - a political earthquake.
Officers'Wife
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Sounds to me like in at least one county in America the people elected a county council intent on doing their jobs. I can only hope and pray it's an idea who's time has come and spreads out not only to other counties but to the states as well. Unfortunately I've given up all hope on the Fed.
Selena
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Coming from Texas, it's difficult to understand the oppressed feeling of your inability to exercise your right to defend yourself. I understand Thorspapa's post completely and agree very much so. To give some lift to him, I will counter by saying that all great changes generally begin with something small. It's that last straw, the one that breaks the camel's back that gets people active. True, Pike County is seeming to say that they are taking a stand only because their specific rights involving their specific beliefs are being violated. I would not look on this as the only argument that will be had here. They have invoked 2A argument into the matter. This will (crosses fingers) be the seed that can grow into a full fledged matter that we can all get behind. I'm truly an opponent of the "firearms for hunting" mantra and I hunt A LOT. I just know that wasn't the intent of the 2ndA and it's much broader than that. I will, however, take what I can get as far as people having enough and taking a stand. That makes politicians take nervous notice because it can do what we all hope it will and take root and grow. I'm sending support letters as well as emails. Hopefully, they will feel they are not alone in their plight and they know people are out there paying attention in case someone does try to put pressure on them.
You can tell you aren't up on IL politics and Chicago media. No one has to pay the mass media anything to snuff anything. The fact is the Chicagoland media and mass media in general just doesn't care what goes on downstate. It's not news to them and as far as they're concerned anything south of I-80 and west of US 47 doesn't matter.
There are a lot of people in that NE part of the state who don't even realize they're part of IL. When I was working cases up there on several occasions I had subjects tell me I couldn't arrest them because I was from IL and when we were making the arrest we were in Chicago. Even when you ask them at booking what state they were born in they'll tell you "Chicago". That's the mentality of too many. Even the educated people often view Chicago as the state and everything else is country that doesn't matter.
outdoorman63
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way to go Pike County
armoredman
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You're right, isp, I left Chi-town after being sent there for 9 months with the Navy, and never went back. The Windy City doesn't sit right with me.
I don't care for Chicago either. Worked a number of cases there and some of those were in places where civilized man wouldn't venture. I never left anything in the city that I ever had to go back for.
But Chicago isn't IL. There's a whole lot of state south of I-80 and west of US 47 and most people would be surprised how "redneck" that part of the state really is. Few know that during the Civil War from central IL to the southern tip was occupied by federal troops from WI and MN because of the strong southern leanings. If a person wants to learn what the real central/southern IL is like then read "Bloody Williamson". It's got all the action of the Godfather movies.
Black Adder LXX
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What a rare and encouraging story. God bless pike county. It would be amazing if Illinois better represented what everything BUT chicago wanted. It's such a cool state...
Absolutely nothing! The 'mainstream' media is anti as it gets...
S4Lee
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This is pretty cool. Makes me want to write a letter to the county here in NJ, since my district reps are pretty set in thier anti ways.
On a side note, as for making sure people are aware of this, Digg.com is a pretty good place to start (http://www.digg.com/about). Think of it as almost a YouTube.com for web pages and links - the more a link is submitted or voted on, the closer to the main page it gets. It's still frequented more by the tech-savy crowd, but I've been seeing alot of "digg this" links on the mainstream media pages (the links make it easier to submit a story / link to Digg.com).
On a side note, as for making sure people are aware of this, Digg.com is a pretty good place to start (http://www.digg.com/about). Think of it as almost a YouTube.com for web pages and links - the more a link is submitted or voted on, the closer to the main page it gets. It's still frequented more by the tech-savy crowd, but I've been seeing alot of "digg this" links on the mainstream media pages (the links make it easier to submit a story / link to Digg.com).
CrawdaddyJim
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At one time Chicago had a horrendous flooding problem. They built a river in a pipe or something like that to drain it. Wonder if it could be plugged up and just flood out Cook county?
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lee n. field
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That would drive the rats out in to more civilized parts of the state.
I didn't know the green part of the map had grown that much. I note with interest that my old stomping grounds, Champaign County, is RED. Well, likely I'll never be back there.
cherryriver
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For reference:
The City of Chicago constitutes 43% of the population of the State of Illinois. Cook County, one of 102, operated by the same person leading the same machine, is something like 56%.
They hardly even need to steal votes.
The violent crime rate within the city is astronomical, close to the highest in the country. The Daley Administration uses the gun issue to deflect attention from the failings of his operation.
The other 101 counties can pretty much just bang their heads against the wall, I'm sad to say.
The City of Chicago constitutes 43% of the population of the State of Illinois. Cook County, one of 102, operated by the same person leading the same machine, is something like 56%.
They hardly even need to steal votes.
The violent crime rate within the city is astronomical, close to the highest in the country. The Daley Administration uses the gun issue to deflect attention from the failings of his operation.
The other 101 counties can pretty much just bang their heads against the wall, I'm sad to say.
Im283
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It's great that this is happening and all but what does it really mean?
Has there been any action at the state level?
Can you carry a loaded firearm for personal protection? Will the State police not arrest you if you are caught transporting a firearm in your car loaded?
In the real world what differences has this made? I must be missing something.
Has there been any action at the state level?
Can you carry a loaded firearm for personal protection? Will the State police not arrest you if you are caught transporting a firearm in your car loaded?
In the real world what differences has this made? I must be missing something.
ilcylic
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You guys are thinking too small. Give 'em to Canada. (Sorry, Canadians.)
Then put up a border crossing.
Then put up a border crossing.
1911Tuner
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Hoorah for Pike County!
But, they're still pandering to the PC hunting issue. The 2nd Amendment doesn't state that we have the right to keep and bear sporting goods.
It ain't about shootin' ducks and deer!
But, they're still pandering to the PC hunting issue. The 2nd Amendment doesn't state that we have the right to keep and bear sporting goods.
It ain't about shootin' ducks and deer!
cherryriver
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To riff off of im283's facetious comment, unfortunately, there has been a difference- going the wrong way. Elsewhere in THR, you'll find the thread describing the new Cook County amendment to its weapons ordinance. The mechanism is similar to the Chicago handgun ban, in that there's registration required, but not allowed. But this one goes far further- by most any reading, it would effectively ban the possession of nearly all guns, and ammunition, too.
Quite a contrast, eh?
It was sent to the County Board's legislative committee in order for it to sit until a quiet moment when it can be pulled out and voted on stealthily. Yes, that's supposed to be illegal, but the Board has given itself authority via some rule or another to ignore such things. At least, it thinks it has.
As excellent as Pike County's resolution is, it's still swimming into a firehose.
Quite a contrast, eh?
It was sent to the County Board's legislative committee in order for it to sit until a quiet moment when it can be pulled out and voted on stealthily. Yes, that's supposed to be illegal, but the Board has given itself authority via some rule or another to ignore such things. At least, it thinks it has.
As excellent as Pike County's resolution is, it's still swimming into a firehose.
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