i have a pardner pump protector and will be using it for home defense as well as a hiking and camping gun and possibly a close range deer gun. i was thinking of putting a pistol grip on it as it would shorten it for hiking, but for home defense and deer hunting i don't know. what do ya'll think?, leave the factory stock on or put a pistol grip on. i know there are folding stocks too and that would give me both but they're more expensive. so would ya'll put a pistol grip on, leave it alone or put a folding stock thats got the pistol grip or regular stock choice? thanks
pistol grip or regular stock?
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LEAVE IT ALONE! try and shoot a shotgun with pistol grips out past 20' accurately, and then get back to me. personally i like a shoulder stock simply because slugs are still an option when you need to reach out 50-100 yards.
if you wanna shorten it, look into the collapsable M4 type stocks. they GOTTA be better than the folders. ive shot folder equipped shotguns and wasnt impressed with how solid the buttstocks WERENT when unfolded
if you wanna shorten it, look into the collapsable M4 type stocks. they GOTTA be better than the folders. ive shot folder equipped shotguns and wasnt impressed with how solid the buttstocks WERENT when unfolded
A pistol gripped shotgun is just about worthless. Really hard to shoot accurately. I do like folding stocks though. I have a factory top folding stock on my 870, and it's really nice. You are probably best off just leaving it the way it is. If you have to have it shorter, go with a folding stock.
tryshoot
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Look good in movies, keep full stock.
allaroundhunter
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Leave it be.....
Pistol Grip Only?
Not now...not ever. There is a very small range of uses for PGO, perhaps if you are the "door/lock breach gunner" in a dynamic entry team.
PGO is how I got to be known as Rocky Raccoon among my Shooting Budds. I put a PGO on my Maverick 88...we were ahhhhh experimenting with it using very light target loads. I put in one of my Serious Socializing Loads (#4 Buck)..one of the guys tossed one of those ultra-dangerous "Clays", I swung up the PGO gun like it had a full stock..
BOOM! OW!!! QUIT IT!!!! a severly mooshed but not broken nose, fat lips, and a matched pair of 'Shiners'
Not now...not ever. There is a very small range of uses for PGO, perhaps if you are the "door/lock breach gunner" in a dynamic entry team.
PGO is how I got to be known as Rocky Raccoon among my Shooting Budds. I put a PGO on my Maverick 88...we were ahhhhh experimenting with it using very light target loads. I put in one of my Serious Socializing Loads (#4 Buck)..one of the guys tossed one of those ultra-dangerous "Clays", I swung up the PGO gun like it had a full stock..
BOOM! OW!!! QUIT IT!!!! a severly mooshed but not broken nose, fat lips, and a matched pair of 'Shiners'
UPDATE: i couldn't decide on what to do as i wanted a pistol grip to take hiking and camping but needed a stock for deer hunting. my nephew solved my problem, i had a old winchester 22 that my nephew has wanted for a long time, he offered to get me another pardner pump plus my pistol grip and a pistol forgrip. i agreed so i now have a full stock deer shotgun and one with a hogue pistol grip and a tac star forgrip. i fired it yesterday and with field loads and reduced recoil buckshot it wasn't bad at all, i fired slugs it kicked pretty good, but the hogue grip seems to help with recoil. all in all i like it and i have a short 27.75 inch gun that i can just sling across my back, which is good i'm a short guy and a real long gun doesn't fit me well. thanks
i found out that at 20yds i was deadly with the hogue pistol grip, at 30yds i was ok. this was with buckshot and regular shot not slugs as i couldn't aim them well. so i put the regular stock back on, and there is good news and bad news with it. (good news): i can hit anything with shot as far as it will reach, fired slugs to 75yds with good accuracy can't shoot farther as thats it for my back yard, and i measured and the full stock is only 10 inches longer than my pistol grip. (bad news): only one thing the stock weighs about 3lbs, its much heavier than my friends maverick stock. and my gun is now quite heavy for carry on a hiking trip at around 7lbs. thanks
Taroman
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Agree pistol grips are a no-go on shotguns for most purposes.
LGS had this Remington on their rack forever with no takers.
It's an Express model. I think they wisely dropped it from the lineup.
As I got s good deal on it, I ordered up a regular stock from Brownell.
That's out for hydro-painting, then I'll lose the PG and actually shoot the gun.
LGS had this Remington on their rack forever with no takers.
It's an Express model. I think they wisely dropped it from the lineup.
As I got s good deal on it, I ordered up a regular stock from Brownell.
That's out for hydro-painting, then I'll lose the PG and actually shoot the gun.
kris7047th
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Agree pistol grips are a no-go on shotguns for most purposes.
LGS had this Remington on their rack forever with no takers.
It's an Express model. I think they wisely dropped it from the lineup.
As I got s good deal on it, I ordered up a regular stock from Brownell.
That's out for hydro-painting, then I'll lose the PG and actually shoot the gun.
Good move on their part to discontinue. That grip looks too breakable at the *throat* IMO pistol grips are for looks to sell (tacti-cool) but not so functional in real life. I will stick with youth stocks on my HD shotguns.
scythefwd
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is that a knoxx stock on it? I hear they were supposed to work wonders on tameing recoil...
Now, I do like a pistol grip on my shotgun.. in so much as a thumbhole stock can be called a pistol grip. It works great for hunting... with slugs. I wouldn't want to attempt to shoot clays with it though.
Now, I do like a pistol grip on my shotgun.. in so much as a thumbhole stock can be called a pistol grip. It works great for hunting... with slugs. I wouldn't want to attempt to shoot clays with it though.
Taroman
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I believe it is a Knoxx stock. It has the K logo on it.
Don't think it would break under normal use. It is actually pretty stout.
When I was in basic training back in the day, we were taught to fall with the butt of our M14 hitting the ground as we landed in the prone firing position. My guess is that I could do that with this one if motivated (NOT) to try that!
When my surefeed stock makes it back this one will be going up on the for sale board.
Don't think it would break under normal use. It is actually pretty stout.
When I was in basic training back in the day, we were taught to fall with the butt of our M14 hitting the ground as we landed in the prone firing position. My guess is that I could do that with this one if motivated (NOT) to try that!
When my surefeed stock makes it back this one will be going up on the for sale board.
tactikel
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Knoxx stocks are great for recoil reduction. I mounted one on my Mossberg 835 turkey gun and can shoot 3.5" super mags without getting beaten up. Except for certain applications pistol grip shotgun stocks are too: bulky, heavy, expensive, and hard aim properly, IMHO.
scythefwd
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the can.. I find I can pull harder into my torso with the pistol grip.. the wrist is at a more natural angle. I can push and pull just as well, but the balance is definitely different with a pistol gripped shotgun (not pgo). That does effect the swing a bit.
scythefwd
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the can.. yes, you do have to change your shooting form a little. Elbow down like on an M16 if you have a thumbhole or pistol grip.
Carbon_15
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After years of accepting the hyperboly about PGO shotguns being crap...I built one for myself. Useless, mostly. They can't do anything a stocked shotgun can also do. Unshootable...heck no. I went with the speed feed "witness protection" style pistol grip, so recoil isn't punishing. Shooting from the hip is fun, but shooting with the gun centered at about sternum height with the wrist indexed on the ribcage produces good reliable hits.
For longer shots, you can bring the shotgun up to eye level with a little bit of push pull isometric tension.
One thing it is perfect for.....giving a jaded gun nut a new and interesting challenge
For longer shots, you can bring the shotgun up to eye level with a little bit of push pull isometric tension.
One thing it is perfect for.....giving a jaded gun nut a new and interesting challenge
scythefwd
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carbon.. go through a 22" door way sideways.. but thats about it 
Collapsible pistol grip stock
I have a Mossberg 835 that I put a collapsible pistol grip stock on and I have to say that they do have their purpose. I find that I am more stable with my aim firing slugs and I find that I am more stable with it for turkey hunting. I think that these stocks do have a specific purpose for certain applications. I would consider home defense as one of those specific purposes that could apply. The shotgun with its standard stock is like a jack of all trades; while it offers good performance across a wider set of applications the collapsible pistol grip stock in my opinion exceeds the standard stock for the reasons previously stated.
I have a Mossberg 835 that I put a collapsible pistol grip stock on and I have to say that they do have their purpose. I find that I am more stable with my aim firing slugs and I find that I am more stable with it for turkey hunting. I think that these stocks do have a specific purpose for certain applications. I would consider home defense as one of those specific purposes that could apply. The shotgun with its standard stock is like a jack of all trades; while it offers good performance across a wider set of applications the collapsible pistol grip stock in my opinion exceeds the standard stock for the reasons previously stated.
shiftyer1
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if your talking pistol grip ONLY, I find it pretty useless unless you just want a cool toy or a snake gun. I used one for a truck gun for a short time......useless. I have considered a youth model to slim a hiking gun down a bit.
Inebriated
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I prefer pistol grips. It's more comfortable and I can control the gun better with a pistol grip.
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