Plated bullet data = lead? = jacketed?

[Centella]

Hi Friends,
Just a quick question here. I'm looking at some data for 44 Mag. The bullet I have is a 240 grain full copper plate.
I can't find data for this bullet with H Lil Gun or R Enforcer, but there is data for these two powders with 240 gr jacketed and 240 gr lead. Which of the two bullets' data would be closer to full copper plate? Jacketed or lead?

Thanks!

 

[Blue68f100]

Depends on the plating. Some are heavier and can be loaded to jacketed velocities, 1500fps. While others are thin and do better using Lead data, 1200fps. In any case, start low and workup. Normally if you over power them the breakup and accuracy goes to pot. I found on Berry's that mid data jacketed gave the best results.

 

[AJC1]

Hi Friends,
Just a quick question here. I'm looking at some data for 44 Mag. The bullet I have is a 240 grain full copper plate.
I can't find data for this bullet with H Lil Gun or R Enforcer, but there is data for these two powders with 240 gr jacketed and 240 gr lead. Which of the two bullets' data would be closer to full copper plate? Jacketed or lead?

Thanks!

Use lead data, but check if the company lists any speed restrictions

 

[LV Gun]

Use lead data it is what was always recommended when plated bullets came out was to use lead data and still a good rule of thumb to follow.

 

[Centella]

Thanks all !

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Depends on the plating. Some are heavier and can be loaded to jacketed velocities, 1500fps. While others are thin and do better using Lead data, 1200fps. In any case, start low and workup. Normally if you over power them the breakup and accuracy goes to pot. I found on Berry's that mid data jacketed gave the best results.

This is the best answer. “It depends,” is always a good answer for reloading but Blue has it right: not all plated bullets are the same. Some can use higher charges for higher velocities and some are not even up to #2 Alloy velocities.

Which bullet are you using and what do you want to put a hole in?

 

[Bazoo]

This is from Berry's website:

Full-metal jacketed, lead bullet, or plated bullet load data can be used as long as the following standards are adhered to:

• The data contains the correct grain weight of bullet.
• Berry's max recommended velocity is not exceeded.
  • Standard Plate Bullets Max Velocity: 1,250 fps.
  • Thick-Plate Bullets (TP) Max Velocity: 1,500 fps

Here is the link to their FAQ page from which that quote was taken.

 

[AJC1]

This is from Berry's website:



Here is the link to their FAQ page from which that quote was taken.

There are a few special bullets like the 150 30-30 good to 2000. I haven't seen specifics on any others....

 

[Walkalong]

Neither lead nor jacketed is the real answer. Midrange to 80%+ jacketed is generally safe, sometimes full jacketed is ok, just depends on the caliber, bullet, etc.

Over the years people like Ranier, Berrys, etc have said everything from lead to full jacketed, and have changed back and forth over the years. Good news is there is a pretty good bit of plated data out there now.

I'd want a thick plated plated bullet for full load .44 Mag. It tests it pretty well with both velocity and pressure.

 

[tmd16556]

I’ve found Berry‘s pistol bullets work well with starting to mid range jacketed data. My first attempt with the 30-30 bullets had them shed the plating in flight with mid range jacketed loads (should have been below 2000 fps).