Plated Data

[Hondo 60]

I emailed Hodgdon & asked for data for plated bullets.
Here's their response:

The reason we do not have specific data for plated bullets is pretty simple. The plated bullet makes simply advise reloaders to use data for lead bullets with their plated bullets.

Mike Daly

Customer Service Manager
Hodgdon Family of Fine Propellants
Hodgdon Smokeless Powder
IMR Powder Company
Winchester Smokeless Propellants
GOEX Blackpowder

So it looks like Hodgdon won't be publishing plated bullet data.

 

[Hondo 60]

I replied to Mike's email; with a quote directly from Berry's website.

Mike,
Thanks for the reply!
I appreciate your time & effort.
But, your response is not quite true.

The quote below is taken directly from Berry’s Bullets website

Plated bullets occupy a position between cast bullets and jacketed bullets. They are soft lead, but have a hard outer shell on them. …

Loading for plated is really “frankensteining a load”.
It’s not quite lead, but not jacketed either.
This is why I’m looking for data specifically for plated bullets.

I'll post again if I get a response.

 

[Iron Sight]

I cannot find data for Lead 200 G RN configuration? (45 ACP)

 

[LiveLife]

I cannot find data for Lead 200 G RN configuration? (45 ACP)

I would just use the lead load data for 200 gr SWC bullet to do my work up. Hodgdon, Alliant and Accurate all publish lead load data for the 200 gr SWC bullet.

 

[Iron Sight]

"I would just use the lead load data for 200 gr SWC bullet to do my work up. Hodgdon, Alliant and Accurate all publish lead load data for the 200 gr SWC bullet."

That's what I thought but the OALs recommended is to short and puts the case mouth way above the ogive. (Rainier 45 ACP 200 G RN)

So...I have sort of settled on a 1.250 OAL. 1st loads were 5.7 G Win 231. They seemed to shoot & function ok. Need to chronograph them.

 

[LiveLife]

The plated bullet makes simply advise reloaders to use data for lead bullets with their plated bullets.

Mike Daly
Customer Service Manager

So it looks like Hodgdon won't be publishing plated bullet data.

Well, we do have published load data for plated bullets from Accurate to compare with lead/jacketed load data:

 

[Cearbhall]

Here's Rainier's data for their plated bullets:
http://www.rainierballistics.com/old_pages/accuratearms.htm

 

[Iron Sight]

Thank you for the Rainier data Cearbhall

 

[340PD]

I have used lead data and worked up as needed on all my calibers. I keep the velocity below 1100'/sec. My goal is the lightest load that will shoot accurately. Saves powder and the gun. No issues at all. Thousands of Berry's loaded. All from.

http://store.tjconevera.com/

 

[Walkalong]

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=5399850&postcount=8

There is data out there. Ranier posted data (See links, be patient) Midway had plated data in their "Loadbooks", which they also posted on line. Accurate has some in the latest PDF that has been out a while. Vihtavuori has some in their PDF.

 

[Hondo 60]

Woohoooo!!!

Hodgdon does have SOME Berry's bullet data.
Atleast it's a start.
In 40 or 50 years we should have full plated data!

I was looking for data for Berry's .429" 220 FP
And found reference to "220 GR. BERB FP " in Hodgdon's data.

So I had to figure out what BERB is.
I found it!!! BERB = Berry's Bullets.

 

[RustyFN]

Hodgdon does have SOME Berry's bullet data.
Atleast it's a start.
In 40 or 50 years we should have full plated data!

I thought we already had plated data. Berry's recommends mid range jacketed data and to stay under 1,200 FPS. I have been using jacketed data out of the manual and on-line for years with plated bullets and it has worked fine.

 

[Hondo 60]

Rusty - while true, we still have to guess somewhat.
It'd be nice if we saw data like x.x - x.x for some particular plated bullet.
Like I found for Berry's .429" 220gr FP