please define this law in your opinion

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the concealed pistol law of Michigan( mcl 428.422 sec. 2)does not apply to the following,purchasing,owning,carrying,possessing,using or transporting an antique firearm (mcl 28.432.12 h )antique firearm is defined in (mcl 750. 231. a ).yet on the Michigan state police web site it states that the concealed pistol law Still applies? it doesn't state open carrying or concealed carrying,using could be very broadly interpreted also,If you don't need to register it or permit it,and you can open carry it,Michigan law states that there's no way to open carry a pistol in a vehicle,loaded or UN loaded,and any pistol not open carried,was considered concealed.there's also another MI.law that says someone on their way to ,at ,or from an historical reenactment was exempt from the concealed pistol law,not mentioning wether loaded or not?
 
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Are you considering an action such as ccw'ing an antique firearm to step around the permit to carry, and still carry?
 
It means that although you don't need a purchase permit to buy an antique handgun, nor do you have to register it. You still have to have a CPL to carry it concealed.
 
750.222 Definitions.

Sec. 222.

As used in this chapter:

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(d) “Firearm” means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air. Firearm does not include a smooth bore rifle or handgun designed and manufactured exclusively for propelling by a spring, or by gas or air, BB's not exceeding .177 caliber.

(e) “Pistol” means a loaded or unloaded firearm that is 30 inches or less in length, or a loaded or unloaded firearm that by its construction and appearance conceals itself as a firearm.

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750.227 Concealed weapons; carrying; penalty.

Sec. 227.

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2) A person shall not carry a pistol concealed on or about his or her person, or, whether concealed or otherwise, in a vehicle operated or occupied by the person, except in his or her dwelling house, place of business, or on other land possessed by the person, without a license to carry the pistol as provided by law and if licensed, shall not carry the pistol in a place or manner inconsistent with any restrictions upon such license.

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750.231a Exceptions to MCL 750.227(2); definitions.
Sec. 231a.

(1) Subsection (2) of section 227 does not apply to any of the following:

(a) To a person holding a valid license to carry a pistol concealed upon his or her person issued by his or her state of residence except where the pistol is carried in nonconformance with a restriction appearing on the license.

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(c) To a person carrying an antique firearm as defined in subsection (2), completely unloaded in a closed case or container designed for the storage of firearms in the trunk of a vehicle.

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(2) As used in this section:

(a) "Antique firearm" means either of the following:

(i) A firearm not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898, including a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system or replica of such a firearm, whether actually manufactured before or after 1898.

(ii) A firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.

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750.227 says carrying a pistol.
750.222 clearly defines a pistol and a firearm and it seems an antique firearm certainly fits that definition.
750.231 indicates the definition you are referencing refers to the the exeption which I read as the exemption for antique firearms only applies if it is unload and locked in your trunk.

I am not qualified to give legal advice, but the section you seem to be hung up on applies to 28.422, which is not the concealed pistol law as you claim.
 
maybe i should ask the .....

MI. Attorney general..........I thought I could read .The consealed pistol laws.Inapplicability to the...purchasing,owning using ,carrying and posessing,just about covers anything you could do with an antique firearm,correct me if im missing somthing?(THE JANET KUKUK ACT)
 
What about an "antique firearm" is not a firearm. When loaded it is just as deadly as what any of us are carrying right now.

Don`t think you need a concealed carry permit to carry one concealed.
Just conceal one loaded on your person without a permit. Go stand next to
a school and flag down the next cop that comes by and tell him what you are doing.

What do you think will happen? A firearm is a firearm no matter how old it is.

Common sense says the law will look upon your antique as a firearm for the purposes of passing judgement on you.

GOOD LUCK to you in you endeavor to get around the law with this antique firearm thing.
 
gaf....."this antique firearm thing"

What endeavor are you referring to,you make very broad assumptions ,your opinion was not a high road worthy analyzation of a question about legal theory and friendly opine,you obviously know nothing about law.I wasn't planning to get Around the law as you put it,you sound like someone who needs some education on legal theory, and manners.
 
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I cant belive........

The reaction,Do you all really think I need To step around the law,i am not a prohibited person,having worked for a u. s. senator,I know a little about the law,and the law is often unconstitounally vauge.
 
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