Please help. Stuck cleaning rod.

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Ok so I took my branny new Mosin Nagant out shooting today. As soon as I got home, I cleaned be cause i had used corrosive ammo. I was using my normal cleaning rod with patches soaked in simple green to kill the corrosive salts from the primers.

Then I decided to use the MN's cleaning rod. I pushed a patch through with no prob. THen another. Then on the third, I dunno what happened but it got stuck. It started being stuck after only about 5 inches into the barrel. I tried to pull it back, but it was REALLY tough. But not that tough to push forward. that is, until it got so the end of the cleaning rod was about at the tip of the chamber. Well, it got REALLY stuck. I need some serious help. I sprayed a crap load of wd40 and CLP down the barrel to let it soak in and then tried to tap it out using a cut-down chop stick as "dowel" thinking I could back the cleaning rod back out. Broke the chop stick after a few taps with a rubber mallet. Then I took my SKS cleaning rod (since I knew if I use a good brass one, it would just break). I wrapped the end in a cloth so as not to mar the barrel, and began to tap the end with the mallet. after about 10 minutes, I might have moved the cleaning rod back about half an inch. I can't push it forward. I can't push it back. I have it soaking in wd-40 now hoping that by tomorrow it will penetrate enough to get it so I can pull the rod out with pliers. But so far...nothing.
Any suggestions?
 
Turn the cleaning rod with some pliers. You probably got a patch folded up in the bore that's gripping the rod. Turning it will reduce the diameter of the patch and free the rod usually
 
I had a similar problem when I got my first MN but the way that I solved it wasn't so subtle. Basically I sat there for about 30min with a mallet and a madman's drive to punch out the rod.
 
hrm. hadn't thought of trying to turn it. Problem is that i have the rotating thingy screwed onto the end, and I would have to reach down into the gun with needle-nosed pliers. I'd have very poor leverage.

Cleardiddion- what did you use to punch it out? wooden dowel? other steel cleaning rod?

BTW- before anybody mentions it, yes, I know I am a dumb-ass. Everyone makes stupid mistakes. I may be above average, but hey, at least I don't have to throw away any MENSA solicitations.
 
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Lol US :D

Ben:
My cleaning rod was down far enough the barrel to the point where it was protruding into the chamber. To get it out I put a bit of dishtowel that I cut up on the end of a length of steel rod and pounded away happily for that half hour. I have to say it's not the best method if you want to keep your rod intact and all that jazz though.
 
Swear a lot and grit your teeth as you swing away.... :D

You could also use a vise to grip the rod and use the leverage of the stock to turn the rifle. Ask me how I know this works... ;)
 
If you use a dowel, make sure you use a hardwood dowel, as opposed to the softer ones more readily availiable. I made that mistake and had a barrel full of dowel rod I couldn't get out, as the end of the rod expanded with the pressure (look at a paper or wooden mallet). Ended up carving up the bore getting it out.

Yeah, you just have a patch folded over. DId you start from the chamber or muzzle end?
 
Lol US

Ben:
My cleaning rod was down far enough the barrel to the point where it was protruding into the chamber. To get it out I put a bit of dishtowel that I cut up on the end of a length of steel rod and pounded away happily for that half hour. I have to say it's not the best method if you want to keep your rod intact and all that jazz though.
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My question here is, why are you cleaning from bore to chamber? I remove the bolt and clean as the boolit travels.
 
It's difficult to clean from the breach on my 91/30 because the receiver is so long. Even my 3-piece brass cleaning rod cannot reach out of the muzzle unless I bend it over the top of the receiver. I have to clean from the muzzle (very carefully) to make it the full travel of the bore.
 
It's difficult to clean from the breach on my 91/30 because the receiver is so long. Even my 3-piece brass cleaning rod cannot reach out of the muzzle unless I bend it over the top of the receiver. I have to clean from the muzzle (very carefully) to make it the full travel of the bore.
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Makes sense, though there are one piece cleaning rods that are pretty long that will fit the bill. I think Borestix makes them (pretty sure that's the name) as I have a .30 cal rod that is 42" long. It's coated and has nice ball bearings in the handle and a little indicator dot that you can watch as it turns with the rifling.

I've gotten things stick before, namely a chunk of lead I was using to slug the barrel on a Mosin. The barrel was counterbored, so my lead piece got really stuck - right where the diameter changes. Stupid me, I hammered it in pretty good. Did this from the bore, as that's how slugging is done. To pop it out, I put one of my cheapo cleaning rods in the breech, made sure the end was up against the jam, and popped it with a mallet. Voila! Out it came.
 
Why is everyone so crazy about cleaning from the Muzzle? I did it for years and we had rifles that would shoot .3" never had a problem with them.
 
Why is everyone so crazy about cleaning from the Muzzle? I did it for years and we had rifles that would shoot .3" never had a problem with them.
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Not crazy. It's just a preference of mine to clean from chamber to bore. It elimnates the chance my fumbling hands will damage the muzzle. If anybody could do that, it's me. :D
 
A brass cleaning rod can't hurt a steel bore. The orignal accessories for the Mosins require them to be cleaned from the muzzle end anyway, and they are steel.
 
A brass cleaning rod can't hurt a steel bore. The orignal accessories for the Mosins require them to be cleaned from the muzzle end anyway, and they are steel.
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Good point. Bet I could screw one up though. I can break an anvil. :D

A suggestion to the OP:

Instead of WD-40, try some Kroil. Wonderful stuff.
 
Thing ya can do for next time, is not to use a cleaning rod...

Take a length of 12 or 14 gauge house wiring, with or without the insulation, put a loop in the end, and use that the pull patches through the barrel. Copper is too soft to hurt steel, but strong enough to pull patches. It can be used with muzzle guides, same as a cleaning rod. You won't have a problem with length. Roll it up to store it.

Check out the Otis cleaning kits for fancy versions of this. It lets you pull brushes as well as patches. Compact enough to throw in a range bag or backpack.

Neither of these can get a patch through a bore as tightly as a rod with a jag. If you want to hear patches squeak on the way through, better to stick with the rod.
 
Check out the Otis cleaning kits for fancy versions of this. It lets you pull brushes as well as patches. Compact enough to throw in a range bag or backpack.
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I've actually stuck a patched jag just ahead of the chamber of my ar-15 with the Otis kit once. Just goes to show that nothing is idiot-proof:p

I've gotten a few other things stuck in bores as well- pieces of dowel while slugging a bore, patches, etc. I usually try to soak the offending obstruction with kroil and let it sit awhile before attacking it again.
 
One thing you might consider doing is pulling the rifle from the stock and using a hair drier or maybe some scalding water to heat the area where things are hung up. If you get it to expand just a little that might ease things enough for you to pound it the rest of the way through without having to be Thor or Hephaestus.
 
A Mosin Nagant cleaning rod is only as long as the barrel and is not long enough the chamber too. Nagant cleaning kits are meant to be used from the muzzle. I made an adapter/ extension for my Nagant cleaning rods so you can clean from the chamber and use standard attachments. You can also a Dewy male to female adapter with a the short cleaning rod from a Dac hand gun cleaning kit from Walmart. The chamber rod is an X-Acto kinfe handle with a section of a cleaning rod. I would not use a wood dowel it will probably split and get stuck. Cut the reflector off a driveway fiberglass driveway marker you can buy them at Home Depot for about 5.00 or use a brass rod. Before i did that cut down an old bore brush remove some brissells and make a patch puller like black powder guys use. Put it on a rod go in from the chamber end and see if you can hook on the patch and turn it to loosen it up.

Mike
 
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10 MORE BEERS AND RETHINK THE SITUATION!!!!!!:banghead: LOLOL sorry i had to do it, i did the same damn thing with a mauser.
 
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