Lyman says start at 11.3 gns with 158 grn jhp max is 14.9 Speer says start at 13.8 with all of their 158 grn jacketed max is 14.8 I've got 158 grn magtech simi jacked soft point and cci primers. I'm thinking about starting at 11.5 gns and working up to 13.5. I just want some plinkers and I'll shoot them in my gp 100 6" What do you folks think about this? Thanks in advance. Rick