I ordered 6 PMags from Botach, for 14.95 each. They were on backorder for a couple of months and then they canceled my backorder and gave me apologies. Now they are selling them for $25 each and are shipping. Shame on them! THEY SUCK! PMags can still be bought for $15.99. Don't let CheaperThanD or Botach or any of the other vendors that are ripping ppl off have any of your business. I've bought tons from each but won't again.