Pocket Carry -My Problem.

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Does anyone else have a problem with pocket carry, and I don't mean your gun is too large to fit in your front pocket.

When I have my Kel-tec P-3AT in my front pocket, I never feel comfortable sitting down with people. Specifically, if I'm going to out eat with my parents, or on a date, or even with friends. If I am sitting across from somebody, I cannot be comfortable with the fact that my muzzle is covering that person. Yes, I know guns don't go off on their own, and the Kel-tec's trigger is about 57 pounds and longer than the Nile River flows, but I still cannot get the "what if" out of my mind. Oh, and yes it is in a pocket holster.

I end up going to the bathroom and sticking it in my back pocket, even though that may not be the best for concealment.

Anyone else agree?:p
 
No, actually, my P11 points at the ground when the pocket sags when I'm sitting. It ain't goin' off anyway unless I make it. That's why I carry a gun with a long DA trigger and not a Glock or something similar. Same with my revolver, very safe in a pocket. If you worry all that much, get a Smith and Wesson 642. They don't make a safer pocket carry and it carries more power than any .380 anyway. They're very nice little CCW pocket revolvers, affordable, probably why they're so friggin' popular.
 
I often carry a AMT 380 Backup in the hip pocket of my 501s with either a folded up piece of paper to break up the outline or my bandanna sticking out of my pocket. Bestest and cheapest pocket holster I've ran across.:)

Biker
 
Training

Try taking a course in gun training, and see if this don't settle you down.:uhoh: If it don't then you got no bussiness with a gun.:(
 
This is it.

When I have my Kel-tec P-3AT in my front pocket, I never feel comfortable sitting down with people. Specifically, if I'm going to out eat with my parents, or on a date, or even with friends. If I am sitting across from somebody, I cannot be comfortable with the fact that my muzzle is covering that person. Yes, I know guns don't go off on their own, and the Kel-tec's trigger is about 57 pounds and longer than the Nile River flows, but I still cannot get the "what if" out of my mind. Oh, and yes it is in a pocket holster.:uhoh:

If you have this fear or fobia of carring a gun, get over it and move on. Getting some pro lessons will help. Alot of women have this hang up. They think the gun is just going to go off at any give moment. This is common. With proper training they will get over it. :rolleyes:
If they don't then they have no bussiness with a gun.:banghead:
 
Ah, like anything else, the more ya do it, the more comfortable ya become with it. Just takes time.

Biker:)
 
I have a very simple little safety rule. It is oddly enough not to point guns at people. Therefore, whenever I sit in front of someone, I discreetly rotate the pistol in my pocket. It allows the pistol to point at the floor and also allows for an easier draw if I did have to deploy the gun from a sitting position. I would also say to always use a pocket holster.
 
I also carry a P3at and if it makes you feel any better I usually keep a folding knife at the bottom of my pocket as a backup anyway. If the gun were to somehow go off it has to go thru a pocket holster, a pocketknife, and my pants. That should slow it down enough, or a least deflect it safely into my leg :what: You could simply glue a piece of metal or maybe a coin to the bottom of your holster to get the same effect. If that does not do it for you then switch to carrying in your rear pocket.

I think the P3at's trigger pull makes it safer to carry in your pocket compared to let us say a Glock 26 with a 3.5 trigger spring.

Baldy, he has a point about being concern. What are two of basic firearms rule you teach a noob before you hand them a loaded firearm for the first time. #1 Never point a loaded weapon at someone or something you do not intend to shoot and #2 Be sure of your backstop. It is better to be overly concern than to be completely ignorant.
 
57 pounds? Have you felt a heavy trigger before? That trigger is 5 pounds :neener:

Seriously though use a holster and don't worry about it. I'm eagerly awaiting my horizontal shoulder holster and imagine that will be a little odd feeling at first but I'll get over it.
 
Ha, the noob talking down to me like I'm a noob. How chic.

No, I'm not uncomfortable carrying a gun everyday. I routinely carry not one but two. A 5" Colt Government model and my little .380 as a backup if I must go into a bad section of town (read: anywhere by my school, USF) Or I carry just the .380 when my clothing dictates. Oh, and yes I train myself regularly and I have attended some classes as well, most notable Tactical Handgun 101 with Randy Cain.:neener:

I'm not sure though why I was jumped on for this question, and I apprechiate Lonestar's response. It is a matter of pointing a loaded gun at someone, not being uncomfortable carrying a gun. :scrutiny:
 
57 pounds? Have you felt a heavy trigger before? That trigger is 5 pounds
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Hmm, ok. I'll go get one of those scales they use to weigh really large fish and keep stacking cinder blocks on it until the trigger breaks. I'll give you a more accurate reading tonight. :D :D :D :D :D :D :neener:
 
I carry a P3AT in a pocket holster in my right rear pocket.
I prints like a wallet.
It's always muzzel down unless I'm bending over.
I try to avoid situations where I've got to bend over in public anyway.;)
 
It's really hard not to point a holstered gun at someone sometime. If you have a belt holster with a forward cant, everytime you walk up a flight of stairs the gun is pointed at people behind you. If you live in an apartment on an upper floor or visit someone in such an apartment, most likely your holstered gun is pointed at someone on the lower floor with only a thin piece of plywood and a piece of sheetrock in between. How about all the people that get covered by a gun in a horizontal shoulder holster? And then there's the horizontal small-of-the-back holster.
 
Any handgun that is not cocked simply will not fire unless the trigger is pressed, as there is not enough spring tension to do so. Moreover, double-action-only and safe-action weapons cannot even be cocked unless the trigger is pressed. There is no need to worry, so long as you use a proper holster. :)

~G. Fink
 
As Gordon Fink said, a P3AT doesn't have its hammer cocked when it's in your pocket holster. Even if everything on the gun breaks when it is in your pocket, there is basically zero chance of the darn thing actually firing. Might as well be worried about being struck by a meteor. The simple act of driving to a restaurant or movie theater to hang out with people is WAY more dangerous.
 
Understanding...

You make it alfull hard for anybody to understand why you would be concerned about a holstered gun in your pocket. Don't you trust the design of it? If that's the case don't carry it. You say you carry a .45 auto. Do you carry it on cock and lock? You say you had classes on gun safty. Didn't he cover any of these things? I also carry a .45 with the P3AT.:banghead: :banghead:
 
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I think it's a fair concern - in fact it's one I share at times, and I'm glad to know I'm not the only one. I carry a 3AT in a Nemesis and try to avoid letting the pistol point at anyone when seated, but when it's just gotta - I remind myself of how the gun works, and that it's NOT just going to "go boom" without the proper input.

Experience helps, like someone said. Also, some snap caps are a good investment for dry fire practice - and a chance to really appreciate the longish trigger pull needed to make the gun fire.

I'll echo what was said earlier, it's hard to fault anyone for having concerns about this since "don't point the gun at anything you don't want to destroy" is rule #1 in many circles. :cool:
 
There ya go Okie - rule #1 can be taken to the extreme. Let common sense prevail. Damn thing can't go off lest ya pull the trigger.

Biker
 
It's all in your mind. The gun and its mechanics have nothing to do with it, or you would have just exchanged it for a "safer" piece. Research the odds of AD. They are likely smaller than the respective restaurant guest dying from food poisoning. :evil:
 
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