Pocket Carry -My Problem.

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Not that I am an expert, but...

I have heard it said repeatedly that the reason that there are Four Rules is that you have to violate several concurrently in order to experience an unfortunate result.

Not an excuse to flaunt the Four Rules, but an exercise in logic, reason and risk assessment.

For example, you cannot dry fire without violating Rule One, Two or Three, depending on how strictly you interpret those.

I think the key is in realizing that you have a somewhat diminished margin of safety. Being aware of this fact will (hopefully) increase your awareness and
help you to avoid any problems.
 
In addition to keeping your gun in a pocket holster, remember not to share your gun pocket with ANYTHING else (car keys, loose change, etc). A friend of mine used to go to a bar years ago where the bar tender kept a loaded Beretta .25ACP (Jetfire?) in his pocket. Not sure if he had a pocket holster or not, but he kept his keys in the same pocket :what:.

One night he was serving someone a drink and BAM!!! His keys got lodged in the trigger gaurd and "levered" down on the trigger. The bullet entered his thigh and did not exit. Lucky for him it missed his femoral arterey. Dope learned his lesson the hard way though :banghead:.

Just curious, do any of you get uncomfortable when visiting friends or family at their homes that don't know you carry? Unless I've asked their permission, I just leave my 642 in the glove box. I know I'm not breaking the law or anything, guess its just one of my goofy quirks.
 
If I'm welcome, my gun is too. Otherwise, we both go somewhere else.

Biker
 
One night he was serving someone a drink and BAM!!! His keys got lodged in the trigger gaurd and "levered" down on the trigger. The bullet entered his thigh and did not exit. Lucky for him it missed his femoral arterey. Dope learned his lesson the hard way though .
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i know this guy whose brother did something very similar to this. he had a lil .22 in his pocket while hunting coons and something in his pocket made his gun go off. shot through the meat of his right upper thigh, one of his ahmm...family jewels, and into his left calf. didnt end up being anything too serious (as unserious as shooting ones self in the groin can be...lol) but i think its a lesson for everybody. i know I would never want to have a loaded pistol in my pocket that wasnt in a holster, and i would certainly feel uncomfortable sitting across from a loved one, even if i KNEW there was no chance of it going off. guess that just kinda freaks me out...there would always be that "what if" going on. you are never going to be able to CC and not have your gun point at somebody somewhere, but i would feel more comfortable rotating it towards the ground or moving it to a back pocket. i guess thats just something that stays w/ me since i was a lil kid, dont point guns at people, loaded or not.
 
I'm guessing you're wearing jeans.

Change to cargo pants, and it shouldn't be a problem. Also, NOTHING goes in the pocket except for a gun and the holster. Period.

BTW, I don't like the business end of a gun facing were it shouldn't, and I never have. I understand your concern, and safety always comes first.
 
Just curious, do any of you get uncomfortable when visiting friends or family at their homes that don't know you carry?
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Not really an issue with me, those that I visit most are trusted family who pretty well know I carry anyway. Some of them don't seem too fond of the idea of "concealed carry" as a whole - but they trust me, and I don't "flaunt it" to them, so it's all peaceable.

If I had it do do over again, I think I would have taken the "need to know" basis of letting loved ones know I carry. Then, I might have had a different response where the above are concerned.

I do have some somewhat "anti" relatives, and being "anti" is the LEAST of the reasons why I'm not fond of the back-stabbing, psychotic, anal, loudmouth....:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

Anyway...I tend to avoid them like plague, but when I HAVE to be around them - I'm armed and don't give it a second thought. They don't know, so they don't care. :D They're family, so as little as I like them, I'd like a bad guy trying to hurt them even LESS...

Well....probably! ;)
 
I am never concerned with the gun being in my pocket and pointing at people. There's no way it can go off in the pocket holster. By the same contrast, a horizontal shoulder holster would not concern me either.

Heck, a policeman's vertical on the hip holster could discharge and hit his foot, or riccochet off and hit someone else, if one really wants to get concerned about the gun going off. If someone really wants to be concerned with that, there are all sorts of ways carrying any firearm using any type of method could discharge and hit somebody. So with that reasoning, no one on the planet should ever be allowed to carry any type of firearm anywhere.

I'm with Baldy. It's mostly in the mind. If a person can't become comfortable with it, they better not be carrying.
 
I carry a 442 in my pocket most of the time. If I didn't trust it 100% to only fire when I pull the trigger, I wouldn't carry it. I wouldn't want it going off in my pocket and going into my thigh or knee. Nevermind hitting someone else, the gun points at me more than anyone.

My nice Mika pocket holster covers all the moving parts, there is no way I can think of that it will go off.

I don't always feel the same way about my cocked and locked auto's, but that's not lack of trust in the gun, it's lack of trust in myself. Did I knick that safety off???? Hummmm!!! That's why I carry a shrouded revolver.
 
pocket holdster

Camera is on the fritz so I just plunked this on the scanner.:D

Picked this up for less then $15 at the local guns store/pawn shop. Best little pocket rig I ever bought. Keeps the P3AT upright and mostly lint free. Covers that trigger so no worries about stray pennies that I may have forgotten etc. I do carry in an otherwise empty pocket but a little insurance never hurt. Also serves to break up the outline slightly.
 

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If your Kel-Tec is like my P32 Kel-Tec, it doesn't have a firing pin anyway . . . just a rotating cam that has to turn quite a ways as the heavy, long trigger is pulled, before the cam rotates around to fire the gun.

In other words, its about as safe as it could be, especially if you carry it in a pocket holster that coveres the trigger area!!!
 
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