Poket opening Knives.

[krupparms]

I have been looking at some of the new & old pocket folders that open as you draw them from your pocket. Like the 'Wave ' on the AK-47 from Cold Steel or the Spyderco knives . I have looked at alot of pictures useing the cable tie. Some knives have been cut &customied . I decided I would see if anyone here had modified their knives to do this? This seems to be a popular modification for some, as it allows you to open the knife with one smooth draw very fast, if you do it properly! Has anyone done this & do you carry your knife this way now that you can?

 

[Sam Cade]

I've done a bunch.

I like the "Wave" on a work knife, especially if the wearing of gloves is expected.

 

[krupparms]

Very nice blade! ^

Is that a left hand liner lock?

 

[Sam Cade]

Nope, it is just the standard OKC Utilitac II.

They have a very large relief cut for the locking part of the liner. Bad for lock security, good for manipulation with gloved hands.

 

[bikerdoc]

I dont have any now, have not for 40 years. When I was a kid in the inner city we would jam some copper wire in the blade channel so the tip would protrude out about 3/16 of an inch so you could catch it on the seem of your jeans and snap it open. A wannabe West side imitation.

 

[xjsnake]

I did the "poor mans wave" on a couple spyderco's. Worked really well. If you can't afford or don't want to spend the money on a waved model, the poor mans version works pretty darn well.

 

[krupparms]

I found 2 or 3 knives in the $10-$25 dollar range to try out. I am going to use both the zip ties & use the dremal tool to modify some and see how it works. Time to get out some tools and give it a try, after seeing what some of the modified knives look like. I just gotten give it a try! If things work out, I will try it on some of my better blades! Now I gotta get those other knives ordered.

 

[DNS]

After seeing how well the Kershaw flippers work I don't see the point of pocket openers.
My Chill is absolutely greased lightning and your grandmother could open it.

 

[rcmodel]

+1

Spring assists & Axis Locks would only wear holes in your pocket faster snagging the opener on them.
With no logical befinet to opening speed.

I can sorta see it with some liner locks, or spine locks that are harder to open fast with one hand.


Still, if I had one that started opening itself inside my pocket point up?

I'd be buying a lot more new pants and Band-Aids then I am now I betcha!

rc

 

[GLOOB]

^I reckon you have axis and liner locks on the wrong lists. Liner locks are up there with the easiest to open. Once the little detent is defeated, it's all systems go. Most all your flipper knives are liner locks. And most of them can be flicked with the thumbstud just as easy.

The axis lock is usually biased a little towards closing. There's some more real estate to cover before it'll flick the rest of the way, and the lock puts a little more passive friction on the blade opening/closing. Some like to open the lock then move their entire arm to flip the blade out, but that's more work to me compared to moving just a fingertip or a thumb.

OP: I have gone the other way. I have removed the thumb stud and replaced it with little nail nicks on some of my knives. This doesn't help them open any faster, it just gets the thumbstud out of the way when sharpening and cutting.

 

[rcmodel]

Liner locks are up there with the easiest to open.

Some of them are, and some of them aren't.

My Benchmade liner locks all flick open with a starting nudge and a flip of your wrest.

But I have a CRKT M16-14 that won't.
If you flick it hard enough to open real fast?
The liner-lock jams behind the blade so tight it takes a pair of pliers and two hands to release it.

So your milage my vary with liner-locks I guess?

rc

 

[GLOOB]

M16 is a perfect example of a flipper stud liner lock knife. The lock might jam, but it sure does open easy, doesn't it? An M16 was my first flipper knife. (And one of my last. The flipper isn't necessary, and it gets in the way of choking up on the knife. I prefer a nicely placed thumstud, in general.)

Oil it up and point it down, and there's scant few liner locks that won't flick open. I don't need any wrist flick to open any of my liner locks up, down, or sideways. Just a flick of the thumb on the stud.

My Axis locks sometimes need a little flip of the wrist to keep their momentum, unless they're pointed down. I actually prefer to open them with a full, controlled thumb arc. The bias and passive friction makes them open so smooth, this just feels right. The blade just glides open. With a liner lock, the thumbstud jumps away from your thumb as the blade clears the detent. Then it's in floppy, free-float no man's land. So you have to flick them out or it gets cumbersome.

 

[ugaarguy]

Krupp, if you haven't ordered anything yet, I'd recommend you pre-order a Kershaw Emerson. $30 to $35 gets you a real Emerson Wave opening CQC series knife with a frame lock from Kershaw's factory (or group of factories) in China that's making some of the best high quality, low cost knives on the market. Knife Works estimates they'll be shipping this coming week. I'm partial to the CQC-6 http://www.knifeworks.com/search.aspx?find=kershaw+emerson.

 

[krupparms]

Thanks for the link! I was going to wait until Monday to order, so I will look at those Emerson's! I would love to grab one at that price!