Police: Mom gave teen son a gun to take revenge

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/08/neworleans.shooting.ap/index.html

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (AP) -- A woman accused of giving her teenage son a handgun and telling him to take revenge after he lost a fight was arrested Thursday after another teen was killed, police said.

Police were searching for her son, Clarence Johnson, 17, who faces a charge of second-degree murder in the death of the other 17-year-old, New Orleans police Sgt. Joe Narcisse said.

He said both teens had walked away after the original fight Wednesday evening. (Watch officer talk about the caseVideo)

"Detectives learned Johnson went home and shared the details of the fight with his mother. Johnson's mother, 44-year-old Vanessa Johnson, gave him a handgun and instructed him to exact revenge on the victim because Johnson had apparently lost the fight," Narcisse said.

Clarence Johnson found the other youth shortly afterward and fired several rounds, hitting him once in the abdomen, Narcisse said. The other teen died at the city's trauma center.

Vanessa Johnson was charged with being a principal to second-degree murder.

Last month, city officials announced efforts to try to curb the violence in New Orleans after nine killings in the first eight days of the year. They increased patrols, set up early morning checkpoints and rushed homicide cases through the court system. National Guard troops and State Police also remain in the city after being called in last summer to help local police combat a spike in violence.

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Shouldn't this be a First Degree Murder charge and a Conspiracy charge? At least First Degree right? Clearly shooting this victim was planned.

Any lawyers want to comment?
 
Shouldn't this be a First Degree Murder charge and a Conspiracy charge?

I'd think so. But I'd like to know what kind of mother would intentionally put her son in this kind of situation...incredible.
 
Shouldn't this be a First Degree Murder charge and a Conspiracy charge?

I'd think so. But I'd like to know what kind of mother would intentionally put her son in this kind of situation...incredible.


Another "Puppy-Mill-Mom"
 
Shouldn't this be a First Degree Murder charge and a Conspiracy charge? At least First Degree right? Clearly shooting this victim was planned.
I am not a lawyer, but that sounds like first degree, conspiracy, and death penalty territory to me.

Good thing the kid was not a border patrol agent, or he would have been convicted, and executed by now.:neener:
 
And some folks wonder way New Orleans and Louisiana have problems....
 
This is a twisted tale, no doubt about it. A kid gets in a fight, loses, and mom says for him to kill the guy who won?
I'm sure they'll come up with some excuse - bad family, poverty, an uncle that was mean to him....

Second-degree murder? What do you have to do to get first degree in that town? Commit suicide?
 
To get a first degree charge you must use one of the new gov issue citizens' handguns (California approved too!) ...
 

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ET, First degree is a specific intent homicide with listed aggravating circumstances. Second degree picks up specific intent homicide without aggravating circumstances and certain categories of felony homicide. See La.R.S. 14:30 and 14:30.1

BenjaminR, the Times Picayune article on the subject would give you more insight as to mom. http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-7/1171008247110520.xml&coll=1
The opening paragraph of the article:

Seventeen-year-old Clarence Johnson lost a fistfight, and he walked away. Then he went to his mother's apartment, police said, where she kept a home with cocaine, a gun and a picture of her young son smiling, holding a pistol and a wad of cash.

Edited: click on the photo gallery to see the pictures.
 
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well....

Since this is Loisiana, this prollly won't happen....

But the family that kills together should go to Ole Sparky together
 
On a related note, local radio, WWL, reported yesterday that state police report a 40% increase in applications for concealed carry in the greater New Orleans area since Katrina and recent crime increases. No mention of the actual number. One gun shop owner reported a 70% increase in what he termed "scared purchases" of handguns mostly by women. Also, hotels are nearly completely booked for Mardi Gras in two weeks in spite of it all. I'll watch it on tv.
 
But, surly it wasn't the mom's fault that this happened. It is certainly society's fault that she was living the life she led and if guns were not so available this never would have happened in the first place!

Solution: Give more handouts and ban all guns!

Just messing with you! ;)

Seriously, I can not figure this out. It's just another example of warped values in this fine country of ours.
 
What a killer Mom (pun intended I suppose)! She really thought that one through! I wonder if she remembered what transpired after she put down the crack pipe.
 
Well isn't it amazing that after Katrina they took and still have guns that were legally owned. Why doesn't someone sue the mayor for not taking the illegal ones.:confused:
 
Done as a Society

A local Radio Personality does a bit each Friday called "Done as a Society" in which he lists 5 news Items to support his claim. I will grant you the list is subjective to the guys editing, but the sad truth of the matter is that while the list on 2/9/07 had all parenting related stories this one did not make the top 5 :eek:
 
What parent would ever...

She just destroyed the life that she created, and the life that another mother created. I am beyond words.

:(
 
Just remember this kind of behavior is sponsored solely by our FEDERAL WELFARE STATE were the animals get paid to breed !

All that happened when the Berlin wall fell was it made it that much easier for the spread of communism .
 
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