polish m44s

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Are there any polish m44s on the market that were never re chambered to 8mm mauser? I know the poles trimmed the barrels down but were any left with original 54r formats? Also why did the polish change everything, they had to re bore the barrels, re chamber it, redo the sights for the 8mms flight path, and im sure they had to do something with the bolt. It seems like a lot of work.
 
I've got a Polish M44 in 7.62x54R... I'm not sure what the confusion is, I've never seen a Polish M44 that wasn't 7.62x54R from the factory, and wouldn't interchange parts with any other M44.

Perhaps I just haven't been exposed to very many from Poland.
 
In the 1920s (from what i have read) the polish took over 100,000 dragoons (not m44s) and trimmed down the barrel and re chambered it for 8 mm mauser. It was foolish of me to think that that was all they ever captured. Dragoons are rare anyway so im glad i got that cleared up.
 
Interesting. I didn't know that. Would be pretty cool to get one of those.

Little did they know that a few decades later they'd be swimming in 54R.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosin-Nagant#Poland
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In the 1920s Poland converted about 77,000 Mosin Nagant dragoon rifles to caliber 7.92 Mauser (8x57mm). Many alterations were made ; barrels were rebored and rechambered to 8 mm, and cut down to 23" length. Other modifications were done to bolts and receivers to enable the 8x57 rounds to load from Mauser stripper clips and feed properly. Rear sights were modified to fit the trajectory of the 8x57 round. Stocks and handguards were shortened, and Mauser-type front bands and bayonet lugs were added. Mauser style blade bayonets, made by Perkun, were issued for use. Some rifles had the Mosin sling escutcheons replaced by wire swivels. The resulting rifles were designated Karabinek wz. 91/98/23, wz. 91/98/25, or wz. 91/98/26 — each with minor differences.

Wz. 91/98/25, et al, were used to equip some Horse Artillery and Cavalry units in the regular army until Polish-made Mauser rifles became available. Beginning in the early 1930s, they were issued to Border Guard and National Guard units.

The rifles are stamped on the knoxform with a small Polish eagle and measured caliber, i.e. "7.91" , 7.93". The eagle and rifle serial number is also stamped on the left side of the receiver and on all bolt parts, and on the magazine floorplate, buttplate and stock. It has a unique and distinct appearance among Mosin Nagant variations, and is easily identified by the Mauser front band and bayonet lug, Polish markings, and 42" OAL.

After World War II the Polish produced large quantities of the M-44 (Kb. wz M48) carbine at the Radom arsenal. Many of these did not go into direct military service but rather were put in storage, in the event they were ever needed. These Mosin Nagants can be identified by an 11 inside a circle stamped on the rifle's receiver. This mark is their "country code" that identifies which Eastern European country it was produced in. In addition to being stored they were produced in ideal conditions on Soviet equipment, making them some of the best examples of the Mosin-Nagant in the world.
 
What did the polish do differently when making their m44s? Or are they just known for their accuracy because they never really were used after WWII?
 
are they just known for their accuracy because they never really were used after WWII?
The Poles actually made some very good quality firearms. They seemed to pay more attention to the details when making M44s, and these have more consistent build and manufacturing quality than the other makes.

The fact that most are in excellent condition with perfect bores is a plus.
 
Like other posters have already pointed out, in the 1920s the Poles acquired a bunch of Mosin-Nagants by virture of kicking the snot out of the Red Army and stopping the early Soviet Union's grand plan to push the Workers' Revolution (TM) all the way to the English Channel (or at least into Germany). As they were using 7.92mm Mausers the conversion of the MN's to their standard caliber made sense.

Post WW2 M44 production was another issue entirely.
 
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