Popular Mechanics: 'Smart' Guns: Dumb Idea!

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'Smart' Guns: Dumb Idea!

BY CLIFF GROMER

Illustrations by Paul Dimare

Combining a handgun with a computer produces a firearm that, so far, has been less than 100 percent reliable.

At first blush it seems like a great idea. A gun that can determine if the person holding it is an authorized user. A smart gun that will fire only if it recognizes the shooter's thumbprint. Pretty neat. Homeowners would want it because it eliminates the danger of their kids or anyone else using it. The cops surely would want it, as it eliminates the danger of a bad guy getting ahold of their weapon and turning the tables. Then there's the problem of teenage suicides--most prevalent where there is easy access to guns, such as the homes of law officers. What's not to like?

New Jersey Gov. James McGreevey seems to like the idea. He signed bill S.573/890, which will ban the sale of dumb handguns--namely, all handguns that are currently available. The law goes into effect three years after "at least one manufacturer has delivered at least one production model of a personalized handgun to a registered or licensed wholesale or retail dealer in New Jersey or any other state." Exceptions to this sweeping legislation would be for antique and competition models. The law doesn't make for a total ban on handgun sales, but it comes pretty close. The law has a good chance of being a model for similar restrictions in other states.

But what about the benefits? What about all those kids who get killed as the result of firearms? The latest information available from the New Jersey Department of Health on this is for the years 1998 and 1999. The total number of children killed in firearms accidents? Zero. Even so, there are kids who are killed by guns, such as the 18-year-old ne'er-do-well who was shot while attempting to rob a liquor store. He was entered in the "child" category.

Well, at least the police would benefit from the new law. Or would they? The cops, as it turns out, want no part of the smart-gun law, and they raised such a fuss that the law was amended to exclude the guns used for official use by federal, state and local law enforcement officers and members of the armed forces and the National Guard serving in New Jersey. The reason was simple. The law enforcement folks didn't want to put their lives on the line for new, unproven technology. It seems that when you marry a firearm and a computer, the result is something that's less than 100 percent reliable. A handgun, with its shocks, vibrations and corrosive emissions, is not the best environment for a piece of sophisticated electronic hardware. In a life-or-death confrontation with a bad guy, a cop doesn't have the option of saying, "Timeout, I have to reboot." It's interesting that the group that smart guns were targeted for--law enforcement officers--is the one rejecting the concept.

Just how reliable is current smart-gun technology? According to research conducted by Sandia National Laboratories, user identification has to be accomplished within a quarter-second to be effective in a life-threatening situation. Sandia says there are no known available technologies that police would find acceptable.

During the Clinton administration, the U.S. Department of Justice's National Institute of Justice figured to spur smart-gun development by subsidizing a major firearms manufacturer tasked with inventing a workable system. Colt's Manufacturing Co. took on the project, which was sweetened by hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Justice Department. A workable system has yet to be found.

According to the New Jersey Institute of Technology, which used government grants to study personalized handgun technology, fingerprint recognition systems work only 80 percent of the time. But the New Jersey law goes into effect regardless of whether the guns are 100 percent--or 80 percent--reliable.

Cops protecting the New Jersey governor won't accept an 80 percent reliability factor. But the governor, by supporting this law, is saying that 80 percent is good enough for the homeowner trying to protect his family from an armed intruder. What's wrong with this picture?
 
Cops protecting the New Jersey governor won't accept an 80 percent reliability factor. But the governor, by supporting this law, is saying that 80 percent is good enough for the homeowner trying to protect his family from an armed intruder.

0% reliability is the goal for politicians in New Jersey.
 
Smart guns and Trojan horses

Originally posted on TFL. These are all the arguments you need on this subject.


Remember, smart gun technology is a Trojan horse -- wherein the defects which are not currently inherent to guns, and never have been found to exist in court, will be designed in -- and the manufacturers will be sued into oblivion.

A list of the type of defects follows, courtesy of a poster, whose name I don't remember, back when I used to hang out at the old Time Magazine Pathfinder boards:

On Smart guns

Actually - you might wish to consider the real world when you talk about electronically personalized firearms, you will end up with specifications something like this ----

Must be able to be used with either hand

Must be able to be used with gloves

Must allow others to be permitted to use the firearm

Must not significantly increase weight or size of firearm

Must have 100% reliable power supply (if needed)

Must have extremely low rates of false negatives and false positives

Must not be affected by temperature, dirt, precipitation, oils, solvents, or perspiration

Must not be affected by calluses, abrasions, lacerations, or other tissue damage or variations

Must not work simply because owner is in close proximity to firearm when another person is using it

Must not be simple to cheat or remove

A temperature range requirement ( -50F to +150F).

Must not be disabled -
by immersion in water.
by exposure to and operation during inclement weather.
by proximity to magnetic fields such as those in industrial facilities.
by proximity to microwave sources such as transmission towers and ovens.
by proximity to radio and TV broadcast towers. (or the radio in LEO vehicles)
by proximity to AC and DC magnetic fields under high voltage transmission lines.
by NMP.

Must complete analysis and be in "go" mode in a maximum of 0.25 seconds after application of control digit.

Must be in "no-go" mode in a maximum of 0.1 seconds after control digit is removed.

How much wiggle are we going to allow the control digit to have on the sensor pad before this contraption says that is not the correct control digit?

Must be serviceable at local firearms dealer or armorer. Requirement to return to factory and have authorized user at factory is unacceptable.

What is the useful life of the electronic components that we are putting into this service? Are we going to measure service life by hours energized, or by shots fired, what?

Should we consider the service life to be longer if installed in a pistol chambered for 9mm X 19mm than we would for installation in a pistol chambered for .45ACP? What happens if we put these electronic components in a Contender chambered for .45/70 Gov't?

Must be capable of absorbing, without failing, the impact loading from a minimum of 10,000 shots.
 
the illustrations are pretty good too
but, i'm sure the artist is not a gunny though...
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Give it a couple of months and they'll have several screechingly anti people writing letters that they publish.

They reviewed the Medusa about 4 years ago, and several readers just went nuts. The response from the editors at that time was nicely pro-gun.
 
The cops, as it turns out, want no part of the smart-gun law, and they raised such a fuss that the law was amended to exclude the guns used for official use by federal, state and local law enforcement officers and members of the armed forces and the National Guard serving in New Jersey.
This is odious.

If "smart guns" are going to be mandated, they should be mandated FIRST for LEOs, in particular the "executive protection details" for various politicians, Capitol police, etc.

After all, aren't a lot of officers done in by police-owned weapons?
 
user identification has to be accomplished within a quarter-second to be effective in a life-threatening situation
I think I have heard of folks that can draw from a holster and get off a shot in about this amount of time. Still TOO SLOW!!!!

GT
 
I have a proposal for the NJ governor - if you will trust the bodyguards who guard you and your family with these 'smart' guns, I'll consider supporting them.
 
Wierd how PM has a kinda rightist bent, pro guns, pro military, etc. And PopSci has a vaguely lefty bent, pro-environmental regs, pro-scientific subsidies, etc.

PM has had a lot of gun stuff within the past 5 years. Good IMHO, get more non-gunnies not to love guns, just accept they are a valid and useful part of our culture.

atek3
 
Actually, it used to be the norm that a handgun and or rifle was "battle tested" by the military before it was approved for sell to the People. Other pistols and rifles were based off the "approved" design. Most pistols and rifles were contracted out by the US government to be built and then tested for battle field conditions.

Yet, this is a complete 180 to the above. Let us People test it out in battle conditions and if the failure rate is exceptable then maybe improve on the design and THEN give to the police, military, gov.

You see People, we are now the expendable ones while the elites are not.

M
 
ha

I remember reading an article in PopSci that was very pro-smartgun. It was disturbing how unreasonable and illogical the article was: it listed all the "benefits," then said that the only real drawback was that it wasn't weatherproof (but that would be fixed in the production model). Not only that, but there were only about six(?) shots, each with their own barrel, which had to be reloaded en-masse by sending the assy back to the maker.
"The best choice for self-defense!" :confused:

If some idiotic LE groups want to adopt it, go right ahead -- but don't make me!

On a happier note, PM has had some great articles. I fondly remember the one about the Medusa revolver a couple years ago.

-sch40
 
Oh, great. You mean the JBTs get dumb guns and everyone else gets *smart* (cough) guns? No thanks! :uhoh:
 
Good article. Hopefully, lots of people will get the hint that smart guns... aren't.
 
The real question is when will it be compatible with the Pocket PC OS so I can have a fully integrated date book, address book, calendar, cell phone, personal defense weapon and tactical light all in one package? Hell, if I attach my car keys and OC spray to the lanyard loop, all my first line gear will be one piece!
 
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