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Positively foolish revolver question

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Shmackey, Jan 18, 2003.

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  1. Shmackey

    Shmackey Member

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    Forgive me; I've never shot a revolver older than one from the '70s. What exactly is a hand-ejector model? The Internet was surprisingly unhelpful in answering this.
     
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    Hand-ejector is when the cylinder swings out and you use your hand to push the ejector rod to empty the cartridge cases. A self-ejector is the type with the hinged frame that pushes the cartridges out whenever the gun is opened.
     
  3. Shmackey

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    I KNEW it was something like that--something where ALL of the ones I've been using were hand-ejectors. Or something where they were an exotic thing from 1948. The former, apparently.

    Sneaky...
     
  4. Shmackey

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    Of course this begs the question: why was S&W trying to confuse me with a model from their Performance Center called the "Hand Ejector?" That's where things got confusing. Was this, at one point in time, a "feature?"
     
  5. Mike Irwin

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    Shmackey,

    Hand Ejector is a phrase Smith & Wesson adopted in 1896 to describe their new revovlers in advertising to distinguish them from the company's breaktop "automatic ejector" revolvers.

    Colt had come out with a swing-cylinder revolver a number of years before, but it was S&W that adopted the name Hand Ejector to describe all of its solid frame swing cylinder designs.

    hand ejector, small letters, describes any revolver with a swing cylinder design.

    Hand Ejector, capital letters, describes Smith & Wesson manufactured revolvers with swing cylinders.
     
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    When Smith brought out the HE line (frame size comparable to the K frame) they were also making the top bread Double Action line. The top break models automatically ejected the cartridges when opened. The new models had a stronger frame since there was no hinged section, but you lost the auto eject feature of the DA.

    here's a model 3 38DA for comparison.
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    and open
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  7. Mike Irwin

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    Jar,

    Which came first, the proto-J frame or the proto-K frame?

    The answer may surprise you...

    The proto-J frame, in 1896.

    Beat the proto-K frame by nearly 3 years.
     
  8. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

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    Let me think Mike...

    (click... click... click...)

    The proto J frame? Did I guess right?
     
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    The "proto-J" frame was called the I-Frame. That's what the small .38S&W, .32S&W, & .22LR pocket revolvers were made on. The J-Frame wasn't made until the 1950's for the .38SPL.
     
  10. Mike Irwin

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    Seeker,

    Duh. Don't know why I typed in J frame when I know damned well what the drill is on them. Brain fart, I guess.

    Trivia question for YOU.

    What frame was even smaller than the I-frame?
     
  11. Johnny Guest

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    Okay, I'll bite - - -

    I don't know the letter designation, but I imagine you're referring to the original-issue Ladysmith .22.

    :p
    Johnny
     
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    Bet it falls between A and H :scrutiny:
     
  13. Mike Irwin

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    Johnny,

    You're right, but you don't get credit for NOT knowing the answer to the question.

    Marshall, sorry, but you're wrong.

    'Twas the M frame.
     
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