Working Man
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Well since a firearm is an inanimate object and does not store souls, I'd have no problem with it.
Problem Owning a Firearm with a “Body” on it?
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Bubbles
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DH owns a .44 revolver that used to be a range rental gun. It was used in a suicide. They had a hard time renting/selling it afterward, so he got it fairly cheaply. It's got a lot more (deer) bodies on it since he bought it.
30 cal slob
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two sides of the coin:
several years back, a college buddy of mine took his own life with a Benelli M-3 shotgun. the weapon was subsequently destroyed at the request of his family. can't fault them.
a well-known East Coast gunsmith showed me an MP-40 (registered receiver) ... with horizontal .30 cal diameter bullet holes that ran the length of the magwell. no one is certain, but it is possible the operator of that weapon was a Nazi shot by allied forces. who knows how many friendlies or civilians were killed or wounded by that gun.
on a related note ... frat brother of mine acquired a used ford probe (remember those?) on the cheap. the story goes that the previous owner committed suicide in the front seat of the car with a pistol shot to the head. a little cleanup and new upholstery ... and ... nice car with low mileage that NOBODY else wanted to buy at any price.
several years back, a college buddy of mine took his own life with a Benelli M-3 shotgun. the weapon was subsequently destroyed at the request of his family. can't fault them.
a well-known East Coast gunsmith showed me an MP-40 (registered receiver) ... with horizontal .30 cal diameter bullet holes that ran the length of the magwell. no one is certain, but it is possible the operator of that weapon was a Nazi shot by allied forces. who knows how many friendlies or civilians were killed or wounded by that gun.
on a related note ... frat brother of mine acquired a used ford probe (remember those?) on the cheap. the story goes that the previous owner committed suicide in the front seat of the car with a pistol shot to the head. a little cleanup and new upholstery ... and ... nice car with low mileage that NOBODY else wanted to buy at any price.
MustangHowie
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If a family member died of natural causes would you want one of thier guns to remember them by? If it was a suicide would you not love that person anymore? My uncle recently gave me his son's .357 magnum that he used on himself twenty years ago. It is a part of my family history. The gun didn't make the decision to do it my cousin did. He will be missed, but he will also be remembered. Two of his most favorite possesions were that .357 and his 1968 Chevy Malibu. My uncle still keeps the car running and my aunt drives it around town so those who know will remember.
Zach S
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Pretty much the same thing came up at corral.net a few years ago. A guy came across some good deals on parts and go-fast goodies for his mustang, off a wrecked stang, and he later found out that when it was wrecked the owner was killed. I dont remember if he got the parts or not, IIRC the thread shortly turned into the typical nonsense found in the corral's lounge.
In the case of cars, and guns (I need cheaper hobbies), it doesn't bother me. Most of my pistols were bought used, so there is a possiblity that one was used in defense or offense, but I dont think about it. Actually, I never have, until I read this thread.
Now that I do think about it: It wouldnt bother me. If the gun itself was walking the streets shooting aimlessly, it would probably bother me quite a bit until the meds kicked in. But it is an inaminate object, so why would I be bothered?
In the case of cars, and guns (I need cheaper hobbies), it doesn't bother me. Most of my pistols were bought used, so there is a possiblity that one was used in defense or offense, but I dont think about it. Actually, I never have, until I read this thread.
Now that I do think about it: It wouldnt bother me. If the gun itself was walking the streets shooting aimlessly, it would probably bother me quite a bit until the meds kicked in. But it is an inaminate object, so why would I be bothered?
Dravur
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no problem here.
I would own the gun as it is an inanimate object... but I wouldnt want the bullet back.
I would own the gun as it is an inanimate object... but I wouldnt want the bullet back.
CSA 357
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there was a colt 45 acp at a gun show a while back that a guy used to end his own life, it had some pited spots on it i tryed to deal with the guy , but i guess he thought it was worth more with the pitted blood spots! it wouldnt bother me ,but i dont think ill pay more 
csa
csaI would have no problems owning a gun that was used for a suicide and I'm sure that my milsurps have a soul or two attached.
The only time that this has become an issue is with my FN-49. My wife tells me that she gets a creepy feeling about it, to the point that it is not stored at our house. She tells me that she gets the feeling that the previous owner enjoyed using it too much, and not in a good way.
The only time that this has become an issue is with my FN-49. My wife tells me that she gets a creepy feeling about it, to the point that it is not stored at our house. She tells me that she gets the feeling that the previous owner enjoyed using it too much, and not in a good way.
Orthonym
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I think I would seek out some pieces of that nature, to wit,
The gun Alice Sheldon (James Tiptree) used on hubby, then self, and the one H. Beam Piper used on self.
But then I'm an old SF geek.
Oh, and one more; Bonny Parker's BAR
The gun Alice Sheldon (James Tiptree) used on hubby, then self, and the one H. Beam Piper used on self.
But then I'm an old SF geek.
Oh, and one more; Bonny Parker's BAR
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1- I have NO problem owning a firearm that was using in the killing of another...it was merely a tool. Heck, I might get a symbol or "tick" mark engraved on the slide....kinda like fighter pilots did for downed aircrafts.
2 - I HOPE I have firearms used in combat, although I have some gun that are in the year range of WWII I can prove any of them where used in such. If I could I they would have more value to me.....not sure about to others.
2 - I HOPE I have firearms used in combat, although I have some gun that are in the year range of WWII I can prove any of them where used in such. If I could I they would have more value to me.....not sure about to others.
Hillsideblue
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Colt Python
I always carried a Colt Python at work as a Cop.....A four inch revolver..........
After I retired I wanted to sell the weapon and mentioned to the guy that wanted it that I had killed a bad guy with the gun in 1972..........
He just had to have that gun because of the history on it............I got about four times what it was worth.........Weird...........
I always carried a Colt Python at work as a Cop.....A four inch revolver..........
After I retired I wanted to sell the weapon and mentioned to the guy that wanted it that I had killed a bad guy with the gun in 1972..........
He just had to have that gun because of the history on it............I got about four times what it was worth.........Weird...........
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I had a Charter Arms revolver that was stolen and used in a suicide. After a year and half I got it back, I loaded it back up and put it in the desk drawer for home use. That was the reason I bought it for in the first place as a defensive weapon. I just traded it recently to help accquire a Ruger sp101 in 22LR.
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I once bought a 21/2" Model 19 that had been used in a suicide. One hundred dollars. And it didn't bother me a bit. Essex
Sam Adams
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I'm a bit on the fence...
You know, we're all recycled stardust. We drink water that has gone through the sewage system and been cleaned (think about that for a second or two), and we eat food that has been fertilized with who knows what. We all breath the same air. I'd be shocked beyond belief if we didn't all have some the atoms and even molecules in our body that some murderer didn't once have previously in their bodies. So? Does that make you more or less of a person?
That being said, if part of your BODY was "contaminated" in such a manner and you don't have a problem with that, why should it matter if your inanimate firearm was previously used by the same person/people whose atoms are now inside your body? The firearm itself is just metal and wood (OK, and some plastic in some cases), it isn't what caused the harm (if any) that some people are concerned about.
Another way of thinking about it is that maybe your ownership of that firearm will result in a good use of it (i.e. take out a would-be murderer, or to teach a kid how to shoot well so that he can survive a war in 15 or 20 years, raise a family, defeat our enemies, etc.).
I own several milsurps (rifles only), and I'd be surprised if none of them was used to at least shoot at another person, if not kill an enemy combatant. I do plan on buying more.
However (here's the other side of the fence), being Jewish I simply can't bring myself to buy any German weapon that could have been used in WW2/the Holocaust. I just can't, despite everything I said above - with the exception of an Israeli Mauser, which was "redeemed" (in my somewhat altered mind) by being used to preserve Jewish lives before/during/after the 1948 Israeli War for Independence (and which I'm in the market for now).
As to a suicide gun - as someone else said, it'd be a bit creepy. But if it had a good enough price...maybe.
You know, we're all recycled stardust. We drink water that has gone through the sewage system and been cleaned (think about that for a second or two), and we eat food that has been fertilized with who knows what. We all breath the same air. I'd be shocked beyond belief if we didn't all have some the atoms and even molecules in our body that some murderer didn't once have previously in their bodies. So? Does that make you more or less of a person?
That being said, if part of your BODY was "contaminated" in such a manner and you don't have a problem with that, why should it matter if your inanimate firearm was previously used by the same person/people whose atoms are now inside your body? The firearm itself is just metal and wood (OK, and some plastic in some cases), it isn't what caused the harm (if any) that some people are concerned about.
Another way of thinking about it is that maybe your ownership of that firearm will result in a good use of it (i.e. take out a would-be murderer, or to teach a kid how to shoot well so that he can survive a war in 15 or 20 years, raise a family, defeat our enemies, etc.).
I own several milsurps (rifles only), and I'd be surprised if none of them was used to at least shoot at another person, if not kill an enemy combatant. I do plan on buying more.
However (here's the other side of the fence), being Jewish I simply can't bring myself to buy any German weapon that could have been used in WW2/the Holocaust. I just can't, despite everything I said above - with the exception of an Israeli Mauser, which was "redeemed" (in my somewhat altered mind) by being used to preserve Jewish lives before/during/after the 1948 Israeli War for Independence (and which I'm in the market for now).
As to a suicide gun - as someone else said, it'd be a bit creepy. But if it had a good enough price...maybe.
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