Prominent anti-gun attorney arrested with gun

[ACP]

The story doesn't say he's anti-gun or anti-2nd A.

It says he's anti-violence.

Different things, as you and I and every responsible firearms owner knows.

Still, dumb move.

 

[joem1945]

Wasn't there a anti gun guy that shot some kid that was in his backyard swimming pool several years ago?

 

[RustyShackelford]

Carl Rowan...

It was a incident with a Washington Post columnist named Carl Rowan.
Reportedly Rowan was a upset when a neighborhood teen used his backyard pool at night without Rowan's consent.
Rowan claimed he thought the guy was a home breaker & shot at him with a .38spl revolver. He said the gun was a gift from his son, a FBI special agent at the time.
I don't recall the outcome but I think the criminal charges were cut. The teen settled a civil lawsuit too.

 

[Speedo66]

I was just thinking of the vehemently anti-gun politician in CA who was caught as part of a gun running scheme.

Such hypocrisy.

 

[wojownik]

I don't recall the outcome but I think the criminal charges were cut. The teen settled a civil lawsuit too.

Rowan was arrested and went to trial but the jury deadlocked in a mistrial. Even though he was staunchly anti-gun till he died, Rowan claimed he had the right to use any means at his disposal to defend himself.

The pistol (a .22) was found to be exempt from the DC handgun ban, because it belonged (??) to his son, a retired FBI agent, even though his son apparently gave it to his dad.

Definitely not a guy who practiced what he preached.

 

[usmarine0352_2005]

ACP: The story doesn't say he's anti-gun or anti-2nd A.

It says he's anti-violence.

Different things, as you and I and every responsible firearms owner knows.

Still, dumb move.

From the OP:

Cleveland civil rights attorney David Malik arrested with gun at airport, police say

February 15, 2015

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A prominent Cleveland civil rights attorney was arrested Saturday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport in connection with carrying a concealed weapon. "I participated in a target shooting class recently with a certified CCW instructor and I simply forgot to remove it from my bag," Malik said in a statement. "I used the bag to pack for my trip. It was a stupid mistake."

"What's interesting about David is he is such an anti-gun person," Loomis said. "He's such an anti-violence person, and of all the things for him to get arrested for, that really surprises me."

 

[USAF_Vet]

Based on the above quote, Loomis is an idiot. Gun does not equal violence. I'm anti-violence, but very much pro-gun. Guns do not cause violence, and the statement from one person interviewed for a "news" story doesn't create fact.

Is it a dumb mistake and a dumb excuse? Sure, but I'm not going to hang this guy out as another hypocritical anti over one comment. I'll need to see a bit more evidence showing how anti-gun he supposedly is.

 

[Swing]

He's an idiot.

Pretty much sums it up on every level.

 

[JSH1]

Pretty much sums it up on every level.

Steve Loomis is the president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association

 

[Swing]

Steve Loomis is the president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association

The quoted post was about David Malik.

 

[TimSr]

Funny how I haven't heard this story carried on any of the Cleveland TV news stations.

 

[ACP]

USMarine,

First, thank you for your service.

I have to reiterate that, while the chief is saying he is "anti-gun," in the context of the story the chief means "anti-violence," because -- according to the story -- the lawyer has represented a lot of clients who he believes were the subject of unreasonable use of force. etc. involving firearms -- violence caused by guns.

I don't see anything in the story where the lawyer ever spoke against the right to own and carry firearms, etc.

 

[Johannes_Paulsen]

Does anyone have a source indicating that Malik has ever been an anti-RKBA advocate (as opposed to being merely against all kinds of violence, and having clients who have filed suits against the police)?

 

[Robbins290]

Planning on grabbing some, just to have some on hand.

 

[JSH1]

The quoted post was about David Malik.

Yes it was. Loomis (the cop) was talking about Malik (the attorney). However, it was Loomis that equated anti-gun with anti-violence.

There is absolutely nothing in the story except the quote by Loomis that says Malik is anti-gun. That quote incorrectly equates being anti-violence with being anti-gun.

The story does say that Malik has represented a number of clients that have sued the Cleveland Police Department for excessive use-of-force and wrongful death. I doubt the president of the Cleveland Police Patrolman's Association is the most objective source when it comes to Malik.

 

[tmarks11]

I would need more evidence that Malik is "anti-gun" than the word of Cleveland Police union leader Steve Loomis.

Especially since he has sued the Cleveland Police Department several times for misconduct.

He is on record as being a 2nd amendment advocate. He has a CCW permit. He shoots at ranges.

Why all the rage and laughter?

So he made a bonehead mistake (that happens to lots of people apparently). We should be questioning why the police kept him in jail overnight, why someone who is not a threat to society (except if you are a police officer who likes shooting innocent children) is being treated this way.

"As a civil rights attorney Malik has built his career protecting the American people from encroaching and oppressive law enforcement practices. He works day in and day out fighting the good fight. The essence of his work is to safeguard our fundamental rights, rights deemed necessary to our system of ordered liberty and justice. The right to keep and bear arms is a fundamental right Malik honors and supports. Loomis's unsubstantiated assertion that Malik is an "anti-gun person" appears to have been made in retaliation to Malik's recent and pending lawsuits brought against the Cleveland Police Department for acts of excessive and unreasonable force. The claims supporting these lawsuits have been corroborated in the DOJ's timely release of its investigation of the Cleveland police department. Instead of making false accusations concerning Malik's stance on gun ownership, Loomis should focus his energy to effect positive change within our community.