Promoting RKBA is extremely difficult in South Korea

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Focke-Wolf

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The fight is VERY tough,



If you say stuffs we say, most Koreans think I'm insane.


They react EMOTIONALLY




I guess best thing to do is to move to a pro-gun country/state.


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It may be best that you start with the same purpose as the American National Rifle Association.

The NRA began to promote better rifle marksmanship to prepare the populace for future wars after the abysmal performance of the North in the Civil War. This lead to a huge following of rifle shooting as a sport and pastime. The NRA did not become very politically involved until the 1970s.

South Korea is not a lost cause. However, it will take slow, deliberate steps. I know you wish South Korea could have the same gun culture as America. It does not. It must be built.

The battle will not be won in a single stroke, it will take a long, slow struggle to change the culture.

Culture cannot change quickly.
 
I am dismayed that a country staring down the barrel of one of the world's largest armies controlled by a tinpot crazy dictator would be so anti-gun.
 
I don't know any unarmed Koreans here, so that's surprising. Which Koreans are you dealing with? If it's college students, that would explain it. Most of them are Marxists or fellow travellers. Those who want to actually learn something come to an American college.
 
They react EMOTIONALLY
If they reacted rationally, they would not be anti gun, so in that sense, they're exactly the same as their peers in the US.

I don't know any unarmed Koreans here
I remember armed Koreans defending their shops from the rooftops from looter/arsonists in South Central LA. Talk about physical proof of the reason for the RKBA.
 
Reminds me somewhat of Israel, with its borders surrounded by its enemies. Wonder if things would be different if the citizens of Israel were not armed like they are.
 
Again living here in Florida, there is a an area we call the Asian colonies, it's mostly Thai and Vietnamese but there are plenty of Koreans about as I have learned from running stick in the pool halls. A fellow lawschool classmate of mine is from South Korea and is trying to immigrate (hey he speaks understandable English and stands to get a good job, and is law-abidding so let them) and was thrilled by the first time I took him and a couple of other foreigners to the range. They were all surprised to be invited to go, the only thing funnier is when I see Japansese tourists rapping on the .22lr rental rifles to have them ask me how to shoot the rifle, or reload it, lol.

I don't particularly understand why South Koreans would wish to be largely disarmed, the Korean war and all its horror you would think would inspire some desire to be proficient with civilian arms much like Switzerland. Having been to Israel where you are allowed to one handguns, there are plenty who own far more than just one hand gun and more than just handguns, just depends if you are in a city or a Kibutz and if the people are descendants of holocaust survivors, war veterans, or recently immigrated (sine the 70's) Jews who think there can be a true peace with the Muslim world, it's called 'Hudna'.

Hey, man, if you speak English, are prepared to follow the law, and have a good education behind you, then come on over on a work visa, find yourself a nice Korean-American girl if you want (plenty of them throughout California, New York, and yes even Florida), and plant some roots in this tossed salad of the USA.
 
That's interesting because Korean-Americans tend to be pro-RKBA.

Local gun ranges are very popular with the local Asian-American population. Ditto for European immigrants and their offspring (like me).

The thing is, there's been a self-selection process going on for a while. Many South Koreans who don't much care for living under their own government, nor in the crosshairs of Kim Jong Il's weapons aimed at Seoul, have become American citizens, just as people from Europe have.

Now, global economic changes are causing further shifts, and I think this is a good sign for freedom in general, though of course it can be darkest before dawn. However, as of now, we find many values among Americans who or whose parents have immigrated from other countries, that contrast with the values of those who remained in their homelands -- these values are often more "American" than those of the people whose families have lived here for many generations.

Ask Oleg Volk.:)
 
Now, global economic changes are causing further shifts, and I think this is a good sign for freedom in general, though of course it can be darkest before dawn. However, as of now, we find many values among Americans who or whose parents have immigrated from other countries, that contrast with the values of those who remained in their homelands -- these values are often more "American" than those of the people whose families have lived here for many generations.

My father was not a gun guy. But we always had a revolver, center fire rifle, 22 cal rifle and a pump shotgun.

Nothing fancy, all were cheap, he bought them used or from sears. (remember when you could order guns through the Sears and Roebuck catalog????}

He was a German immigrant. Came here between the wars as a boy, raised just outside New York City.

He was asked several times during and after the war if he could have shot at his cousins or uncles? His answer was always the same. THEY PICKED THE WRONG SIDE! He was an American, and we fight on the American side.

My father got his citizenship in july 1940. He did not get drafted, deferments for working in the war industries, he made lenses for bomb sights and periscopes, etc. After the war he went to night school and got his Mech Engineering degree. He was declared 4F for perforated ear drum.

We got my Great Grandmother out of Germany as soon as we could after the war. She was in her 70's. The war and rationing had taken their toll. She died in the early 50's. After that my father demanded that we only speak English, we are AMERICANS. Today I can not speak German.

I was the first born here, and the first to serve, proudly. Part of that, aside from the fact I enjoyed my service time, was my families payment to be Americans. I am the only male member of the family. Way to much estrogen.

I am a life member of two organizations, the NRA and DAV.

Long winded old troopers meandering is now over.

Good luck

Fred
 
To my dismay, I recently found out that even during wartime, the military is trained to confiscate guns in civilian hands. (not that there's hardly any)
 
I'm kinda surprised by this, but not at the same time. I work for a S. Korean company here in OR, and about 1/2 the company here is S.Koreans on work visas. A TON of them live in my apartment complex, and all around my apartment. I quite oftem OC around the complex taking out trash, getting the mail, loading/unloading my car, etc, and none of them SEEM to have even noticed or given it a second thought. Maybe they expect it from Americans here in the U.S. and just arent surprised to see a gun on one of us "cowboys :)", but like it better the way it is back home for them.Just seems like if the majority of S.Koreans were very anti-gun, they would be more likely to somewhat freak seeing me OC here (especially considering wht there likely impression of our crime situation is like in the U.S.). I know they are a very rigid, polite society, so I'm not saying I had expected them to come up and actually confront me or even say something, But I'd have thought I'd get some stares, see them glance, nod, gesture, start talkning about it amongst themselves in Korean, etc.So far, I've seen no indication of any of that, and there are quiter often large groups of the neighbors outside when I OC. Just find it interesting....
 
I'm assuming the Koreans not getting freaked out by your OC is due to

'THIS IS AMERICAAAAAAA!!!!'

*kicks down the well*


On a serious side, Koreans EXPECT to see guns in America.
 
South Korea requires practically all suitably-aged males to spend some years in the military, ergo they achieve some satisfaction of national defense, and some personal ability (esp. via tae-kwan-do training) to defend themselves & dependents.

There is a strong social sense of submission to authority, and with a full quarter of the population living in Seoul alone, anti-RKBA sentiments seem to run high (as they do in most major cities).

I dated a South Korean for a prolonged period. She once observed that if a mugger were to wave a pistol in that country, most people would laugh at the silly man playing with a toy - guns are so rare outside gov't control as to be presumed nearly non-existent. She did, however, take great delight in our time at the range in the US ... our first trip started off with a mere .22, which which was fired several times, and then with a big grin she demanded "bigger gun!", repeated until a .308 seemed enough.

Word is the main threat is from North Korea having enormous artillery capabilities in place to pulverize Seoul in about a half-hour. Individual armament seems too little too late in that situation.

I imagine that between the compulsive service, submission to authority, typical urban desire to disarm one's neighbor, the extreme urbanization of the country, and the artillery threat, spreading RKBA is a tough case to make. Like here, it must be addressed one citizen at a time.
 
'There is a strong social sense of submission to authority'


I find that very true/
 
Remember, the OP is in South Korea.

Contrary to popular belief, most Asian countries have some form of crime. Sexual Assaults are quite high in most Asian countries. In Japan for instance, they have "beware of perverts" signs on the subway. In Texas, if someone was to repeatedly and deliberately touch you inappropriately, that would be considered sexual assault and you could use lethal force.

Maybe you should talk to Korean women about self-defense. It's great that the guys get all the army training, but doesn't that create a one-sided society. The men know how to fight and shoot, the women do what... oh right... stay content with being molested on the subways...
 
Walked to the dumpster side by side with a S.Korean neighbor this evening while I was open carrying my 1911.Again, she didn't even seem to notice, but it dawned on me hat it y not be so much they expect to see guns in America, as much as the may assume I'm a cop.Either way, didn't seem to bother her at all.
I have found the S.Koreans to be EXCEEDINGLY nice and polite as a whole, and quite friendly.In fact, they tend to really be quite free about physical contact, which has kind of surprised me. I often see 1 male rubbing the neck/shoulders of another while working on a piece of equipment, or holding hands while walking, etc.
I wonder if it isn't so much that the population is anti-gun (or has a negative view of them) as much as it is that of those in charge saying they are bad, or you don't need them, and it is just accepted due to the culture being (from what I see) VERY non-confrontational and respectful of authority to a fault.The trick may be getting those in charge to present a more favorable view for the population to be wiling to accept it or fight for it (as they may desire it now, but Will not speak out due to the govts stance).

Very tough situation. How would one get they govt to change the way they present guns, and the laws governing them, without the population calling for it, when the population may desire it, but won't call for it out of a culture of respect for authority and submission to authority? Kind of a real serious, self-perpetuating catch-22.Again, this is all just based on my dealings with S.Koreans at work, the OP will obviusly know better if I'm off on somethig.
 
The Korean people that I met while I was there were very nice folks and most could defend themselves with just their hands and feet. I saw kids that could hurt you pretty bad.
 
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