Pros and Cons of NRA membership

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The NRA has become a useless organization that does nothing to keep our rights...

you want that right... ok.. but we keep this one... you want that right too, well alright, but we keep this one...

it has become as political as everything else and all that is political is afraid of someone higher up the chain.

BTW... they called my friend's father (a retired gunsmith and shop owner) yesterday, on FATHER'S day in the middle of his father's day dinner to ask for money...
 
BTW... they called my friend's father (a retired gunsmith and shop owner) yesterday, on FATHER'S day in the middle of his father's day dinner to ask for money...
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Oh no, that poor man! I hope he's going to be ok! Is there someplace we can send flowers? Does the vileness of these savage fiends know no bounds? Surely, one would think they would know better than to call a regular guy, but a former gunsmith?! Have they no decency? Damn you, Wayne LaPierre and your faceless hordes of telemarketers, damn you to hell!

While the NRA is far from perfect, most of the complaints against it certainly seem to be either baseless or little more than small annoyances.
 
"It's called "opting out" people, do it online or on the phone."

Thanks for making my point. I choose to "opt out" of NRA membership.
 
The "they send stuff and call me" has got to be the lamest "con" ever. Opt out okay.
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Amen to that. The second time they called me, I asked to be removed from their call list and have never recieved a call since (and that was 2 years ago).

One pro is the fact that they are the "resident" expert in firearms related matters, and the people there do their homework before submitting statements, press releases, or appearing on radio/TV shows. So you know the numbers are not made up b.s. unlike Mayor Bloomberg and company.

Other pros: discounts from certain businesses, firearms insurance, states recognize their courses when you're needed to show training for CCW permits, and speaking of courses they offer quite a few of them. Some other big ones to me are the Eddie Eagle program, their involvement with the FFA and Boy scouts, and that they are actively engaged in hunters education in all states and work with hunters and landowners to keep those relationships on good terms.
 
All I know is when you're a member, they constantly mail you solicitations for money.

When you're not a member they constantly call you and harass the p*** out of you soliciting money.
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I'm an NRA member and the calls (of which I've received uh...let's see...zero) and mailings (which I receive a lot of) don't bother me. If I want to read it, I do. If I don't I have a very simple process:

1) Letter goes in recycle bin
2) Uh...well there really isn't a two. I guess I simply move on with life unaffected.

If the phone calls bother you, opt out. If you hate the letters, ask them to stop sending them. If you hate the NRA don't join or cancel your membership. If you aren't a member and you don't want the NRA calling you, then treat them like any other telemarketer and get off their list. Frankly if you can't figure out how to stop receiving calls or mail, perhaps firearm ownership is a risky proposition for you.

While the NRA is far from perfect, most of the complaints against it certainly seem to be either baseless or little more than small annoyances.
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Agreed. And show me an organization that doesn't have it's little foibles.
 
So the biggest complaint against the NRA is them soliciting for funds. Sheeesh. Get a life.

With all the good they do promoting the RKBA, perhaps they need some funds to stave off folks like the Brady Bunch and other left-wing orgs. The NRA-ILA keeps you informed of any legislation pending, so that you can take steps YOURSELF to help preserve the RKBA.

Should we get you some cheese???
 
NRA all the way!!!!

GOA?? Who the hell is that? That's the response you will get from the politicians who are pro-gun control and wield influential power. When McCarthy and Pelosi speak about gun control, what three letters spew out of their mouths with spite and hatred? NRA. Just look up news articles whenever this topic comes up.

GOA would get squashed hard and fast if they tried to play the game in D.C. I don't even see GOA around D.C., their "lobbyists" are no where to be seen.

go with the NRA, get on the "no-call" list, support their efforts. Also, paying the yearly membership and expecting the NRA to win every major battle seems frivilous. It takes more than money to win these battles.
 
Dullh wrote:
Had that been what he actually said, I would have agreed too.
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That's the interesting thing about a discussion - instead of merely repeating what the other party said, you add something to it.

Pete409 wrote:
The NRA has done FAR, FAR more for your 2A rights than you can ever imagine.
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I wrote:
I agree with Pete409, too. We must be ever vigilant when it comes to the Constitution.
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Well, this sure is interesting. Not only did I agree with another poster, and that agreement is its very own distinct sentence, but I also added my own commentary - to a separate sentence - which relates back to the subject matter of my earlier post and the subject matter of the thread! :what:

But, if it makes Dullh happier, then consider this an amended version of my post:

si_vis_pacem wrote: "The NRA has done FAR, FAR more for your 2A rights than you can ever imagine. We must be ever vigilant when it comes to the Constitution."

Sadly, this approach has little practical application. Plagiarism is unethical. Conversations become redundant. Discussion takes up needless space. This response keeps growing. At least Dullh can both agree and also disagree with me at the same time.

Or perhaps a discussion should be like this:
si_vis_pacem: "Sure looks like rain today."
Dullh: "Sure looks like rain today."
si_vis_pacem: "Sure looks like rain today."
Dullh: "Sure looks like rain today."
si_vis_pacem: "Sure looks like rain today. Maybe a little wind."
Dullh: "Had that been what I actually said, I would have agreed too." :neener:
 
"The NRA has become a useless organization that does nothing to keep our rights... "

You are wrong. Completely. Your facts are wrong and your interpretation is wrong.

John
Member www.vcdl.org
NRA Patron
 
Since there's no viable alternative to the NRA, the NRA is what I'm a member of.

You can't win every battle, and playing the political 'game' is how things get done.

Besides, something is better than nothing.

Remember, you don't magically appear at the top of a hill - you get there one step at a time.
 
No kidding. Do you think the average citizen has the money to foot the legal bill for a trip to higher courts to challenge laws?
 
The NRA has become a useless organization that does nothing to keep our rights...

you want that right... ok.. but we keep this one... you want that right too, well alright, but we keep this one...

it has become as political as everything else and all that is political is afraid of someone higher up the chain.



I dont know if you are a Brady troll ==BUT!
Im a life member of the NRA .. If you guys want to chnge the NRA become members for life of stay a member for 5 years and you can vote for the board of directors----This election we did a good job removing several fudds and replacing them with solid EBR rights supporters--Any snivvelling about the NRA is pointless--Become a member and vote !!!!
As to the pestering for donations --That is done by a hired outside service --You can ask to be removed from the list! They are very good at removing your name -!!!
 
I have owned guns for 50 years & never felt the need to join the NRA, in some cases I was totally against some of their stands BUT since Mr Obama, Ms Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer and their ilk have taken over our government I felt obligated to join just to show solidarity and if that adds me to one of their lists then so be it.
 
I'm a member and I don't get all the junk mail and phone calls. I guess I read and marked the appropriate boxes.
 
Pros: Saving your and your children's and your grandchildren's gun rights.

Cons: A little extra junk mail. Walk 30 feet from mailbox to file 13 and deposit said mail into said file, if you don't want to read it.

World's ultimate no-brainer - close the thread and get on to the next question!!!
 
Other effective groups deserve support

I quit the NRA over their lack of concern for state's issues as evidenced by 4 letters I sent them about a state problem with not a single reply. The NRA is like the Queen Mary of RKBA organizations: big enough to weather many controversies but TOO big to respond to smaller, but important issues. Mostly, IMHO, Wayne wants to keep his job and his buddies in DC. I'm in 2d Am Assoc, JPFO, and support a several nearby states' shooters' alliances, because the NRA has enough of your money, and doesn't appreciate mine. Gun owners need lobbyists in all states, and NOT a multi-million dollar edifice full of its own bureaucracy, to whom most of us are anonymous donor patsies. As I recall, the last magazine I got from NRA was over 1/3 advertisements, for big-buck pistols, WWII obsolete guns, watches, silver and gold coins, and stretch-pants. No wonder it's a "free" magazine.
 
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they called my friend's father (a retired gunsmith and shop owner) yesterday, on FATHER'S day in the middle of his father's day dinner to ask for money...
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What I find more objectionable than having the phone ring during dinner is having someone get up from the table to answer it!

(guess dinner and dinner guests are less important than a ringing phone)
 
it has become as political as everything else
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Exactly. That's how you get things done.

For better or for worse, having connections, using lobbyists, using your political pull, etc, gets things done in Washington.
 
As I recall, the last magazine I got from NRA was over 1/3 advertisements, for big-buck pistols, WWII obsolete guns, watches, silver and gold coins, and stretch-pants. No wonder it's a "free" magazine.
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*LAUGH* :neener:

You're kidding right? This is really a complaint?

:what: "Oh, woe is me, my firearms magazine has advertisements for things people reading couldn't possibly want!" :rolleyes: Are you sure you were really an NRA member? You don't seem to understand how it works so...


You are right on one point, gun owners could use more support on the state level too. For example, in Texas, the TSRA!

And yet, since there is this big thing called federal government, we need a big country wide organization too.


I think you are looking for the daorhgih organization. A place with no phone calls, no mail, and no advertisements in it's magazines. Of course, the organization will fail in a few short minutes since it won't generate any money and will have absolutely no sway for 2A support since no one will ever hear of it by mail or phone.
 
What I find more objectionable than having the phone ring during dinner is having someone get up from the table to answer it!

(guess dinner and dinner guests are less important than a ringing phone)
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Exactly. And phones have had the ability to turn the ringer off since, oh what, the 1950's?
 
I just joined about 2 weeks ago when I bought a rifle. I got a discount but have a year membership, what do I get with it?
 
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