Pt-145

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No, that's a good guess.
Look at it logically. The guns are breaking due to slide hammering the inner steel subframe.
Now take a heavier recoiling round like the .45 and put it in a gun with a very light slide weight which gives it higher slide velocities... Very hard to get past that hammering effect.

I suspect that a moderately skilled gunsmith could remedy that whole situation with a little work.
 
The slide hammering potential problem of the PT-145-TI is easily eliminated with the recoil spring selection, but the fact remains that all the recoil force has to be absorbed by the shooter without the benefit of more gun mass to dampen it.

What's not attractive to Taurus is a 17 ounce .45 in the hands of tentative shooters and all the returns of perfectly good guns for "repair" that can be expected.

That's what happened to Kel Tec with their P-40, so they discontinued the product, and things have been going great for KT.

I'm sorry to hear Taurus won't be making the titanium version. I really wanted one of those!
 
Taurus had a great opportunity here and really blew I'm afraid. Ashame because the Milleniums are among the nicest looking little guns out there.
 
1500+ rounds

I have 1500+ rounds through my PT111 with no problems. Of course, I keep the gun clean and lubricated. I also do not, under any circumstances, use reloads in the gun (mine or anyone elses).

I have two friends with PT145's that both had the grip assembly crack at around 600 rounds. In both cases the grip assemblies were replaced under warranty by Taurus. Both continue to function with no problems after more than 2000 rounds each.

Did Taurus take a long time to get the guns back? Yes - almost 8 weeks in both instances. However, they were up front about it taking that long, and were always cordial and understanding when called.

I don't understand why everyone gets so bent out of shape at it taking a little longer to get your gun repaired at no charge for the life of the gun! Yes, some other manufacturers turn things around faster. So what. At least Taurus is up front about telling you how long it will take. If you don't like the time frame, take it to a gunsmith and pay for the convenience of having it back in a couple of days. Otherwise, send it in for your free repair and quit whining.

Someone mention using their PT for IDPA. No way?! I'll be the first to admit that the PT is a TERRIBLE IDPA gun. The short barrel, light weight, and long, heavy trigger pull are not competition friendly. Use a PT in competition and you WILL get soundly trounced by guys with a more "conventional" gun.

As it has been noted several times above, the PT145 is a TOTALLY DIFFERENT GUN than the 111/138/140 pistols. The design is similar, but it has been scaled up to meet the demans of the .45 ACP round. There are ZERO interchangeable parts between the 145 and any other PT series gun.

I find that most people who proclaim that any gun is "total junk" have A) Never fired one B) Only shoot a couple of times a years, and/or C) Are "one gun" shooters who think that anything other than their brand or model is not worth having.

It's interesting to not that some shooters pick up the PT expecting it to have a glassy-smooth 2lb trigger and print 1" groups at 50 yards. Ain't gonna happen, so get over it. The PT111 has a long, heavy, gritty trigger pull and might keep all shots in an 8" circle at 25 yards (on a very, very good day).

The design of the PT makes it unforgiving of poor shooting skills. When I want to humble a local "hot shot" shooter who thinks he or she can do no wrong I just move the target out around 7 yards and hand them my PT. After they put 10 shots low, left, and splattered all over the place, I step up and put the same number of rounds right in the 10-ring. All it takes is practice and a knowledge that you can't jerk around a PT like you can a 1911 or a tricked-out Glock (and I own both, so I can make a valid comparison).

I'll shut up now. :D

Brad
 
i called taurus this morning

I called taurus this morning at 830 EST
Ok, since I'm interested in this pistol I called Taurus this morning and asked about the PT-145.

The customer service rep was very nice, proffessional and immediately acknowledged there had been problems with the polymer in the frames. It had been corrected, they will be making the pistol next year. If I had a pistol with the frame cracks they would pick it up from me and pay all shipping, replace the frame and return it to me- at noo cost to me.

i think that answere the questions. They acknowledged fault, they fixed fault, they will continue production, they will pick up & replace frame and return at no cost.

Sadly she couldn't give me a month of manufacture for where the error was fixed. I would suggest anyone who buys one follwe Forseti's advice and look for a high serial number or wait until more positive comments are made.

I also asked about pin shearing with the PT-111 and she didn't know anything about that, and had no record of it. that's another can of worms.
 
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