Public Servant caught running 184 lbs of dope!
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Brian Dale
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444, thanks. I didn't make clear my view of the benefits.
FF: high benefit; done to decrease or prevent death and property loss, and with time constraints.
Smuggling dope: easy money, recreation, ?
In a place where the unavoidable risks are high, my personal preference is to be around people who minimize their casual risks. I have less experience than a lot of folks, and I can't speak for anybody else.
FF: high benefit; done to decrease or prevent death and property loss, and with time constraints.
Smuggling dope: easy money, recreation, ?
In a place where the unavoidable risks are high, my personal preference is to be around people who minimize their casual risks. I have less experience than a lot of folks, and I can't speak for anybody else.
Happy Bob said it for me - this guy is obviously STUPID. And that is true regardless of the right or wrong of drug laws.
vrwc, don't worry about TheeBadOne. In his world, it's a Federal offense to suggest that a LEO did something wrong, unless you can show that the officer was actually convicted in court. At least, I suppose it would be okay to point that out.
vrwc, don't worry about TheeBadOne. In his world, it's a Federal offense to suggest that a LEO did something wrong, unless you can show that the officer was actually convicted in court. At least, I suppose it would be okay to point that out.
Orthonym
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HappyBob has a good point:
Some activities require one to be maximally sharp and alert; others don't.
For example: If I had a helicopter, you betcha the guy who maintained it would have to pee in a jar. I'd go further than that. Find out if his wife is nice to him, if he's getting enough sleep, if he's drinking too much coffee, etc etc.
Being a clerk at Blockbuster would not seem to require such stringent measures, but I heard a while back that those folks were testing HAIR SAMPLES! This for the kind of dumb job which most people could probably do better when zonked down on something.
Some activities require one to be maximally sharp and alert; others don't.
For example: If I had a helicopter, you betcha the guy who maintained it would have to pee in a jar. I'd go further than that. Find out if his wife is nice to him, if he's getting enough sleep, if he's drinking too much coffee, etc etc.
Being a clerk at Blockbuster would not seem to require such stringent measures, but I heard a while back that those folks were testing HAIR SAMPLES! This for the kind of dumb job which most people could probably do better when zonked down on something.
Parker Dean
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Yeah, right?
I try not to abscribe such motivations to others but I have noticed a certain, shall we say surprise, of some officers when they find that I'm white. And you're not the first to make such an observation either. I seems my friends think the car looks a lot like what some other racial stereotypes might drive. Mainly because it's beat-to-hell. I use it (and the ones previous) because it was cheap and still gets the job done but mostly because there's no point in having a nice car out there when you're driving 2-4000 miles a week.
OTOH, I do have this nagging suspicion that if I were driving a new BMW I wouldn't get a second glance.
I agree.
After I got divorced I actually went without a vehicle for a year or two. I walked to work and dated women that were willing to drive all the time. Walked to the grocery store etc.
My first car after that was a POS that I bought for $200. I drove it for several years. I got pulled over all the time. I mean at least once a month. Never was actually given a ticket; ever.
After buying new cars (actually all I buy are pickups) I haven't been pulled over for years.
After I got divorced I actually went without a vehicle for a year or two. I walked to work and dated women that were willing to drive all the time. Walked to the grocery store etc.
My first car after that was a POS that I bought for $200. I drove it for several years. I got pulled over all the time. I mean at least once a month. Never was actually given a ticket; ever.
After buying new cars (actually all I buy are pickups) I haven't been pulled over for years.
Okay, I understand. I didn't know you drove a beater all the time.
I always see what I assume to be "poor" people with junky cars pulled over. Especially around the nicer suburbs.
Doesn't make it right, but these folks obviously (99%+ chance) don't live there. Also guess that criminals generally don't drive BMWs and those that do don't commit property crimes. 'Course one of my professors drove a rusting mid-70s Impala with, I swear, a piece of corrugated siding to replace is missing trunk lid.
I also imagine cops don't feel the "poor" will challenge them, know their rights, or be able to get much recourse. IRS audits are generally targeted toward lower income individuals, statistically, from what I've read, for many of the same reasons - its easier to beat up on the "helpless."
I always see what I assume to be "poor" people with junky cars pulled over. Especially around the nicer suburbs.
Doesn't make it right, but these folks obviously (99%+ chance) don't live there. Also guess that criminals generally don't drive BMWs and those that do don't commit property crimes. 'Course one of my professors drove a rusting mid-70s Impala with, I swear, a piece of corrugated siding to replace is missing trunk lid.
I also imagine cops don't feel the "poor" will challenge them, know their rights, or be able to get much recourse. IRS audits are generally targeted toward lower income individuals, statistically, from what I've read, for many of the same reasons - its easier to beat up on the "helpless."
Orthonym
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Happens around here a lot, too.
The sleek, arrogant, well-tanned guys in the Jaguars and recent Cadillacs (especially this time of year) don't seem to think that the traffic laws apply to them, but I NEVER see one get pulled over.
The sleek, arrogant, well-tanned guys in the Jaguars and recent Cadillacs (especially this time of year) don't seem to think that the traffic laws apply to them, but I NEVER see one get pulled over.
TheeBadOne
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A point to ponder: Older cars often have equipment problems, IE: headlight/taillight out, loud muffler/no muffer, etc, and thus are subject to stops that newer cars arent. For that very reason alone they will be stopped more than newer cars. Now, when it comes to speeding/weaving etc, they are both equal, but throw in the equipment violations and older cars get stopped more, period.
Orthonym
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Just a minute here!
MY older vehicle has rust holes, hardware cloth for a grill, and actual green mold growing on one side of it. It also has: nearly new tires, excellent brakes, tight steering linkage, and all of its lights working. I love driving it around the neighborhood and getting dirty looks from the female neighbors. As for my driving behavior, I think I may be one of the two or three people in this town who actually signals BEFORE changing lanes!
MY older vehicle has rust holes, hardware cloth for a grill, and actual green mold growing on one side of it. It also has: nearly new tires, excellent brakes, tight steering linkage, and all of its lights working. I love driving it around the neighborhood and getting dirty looks from the female neighbors. As for my driving behavior, I think I may be one of the two or three people in this town who actually signals BEFORE changing lanes!
Orthonym
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Good Repair, Yes; Clean, No:
I reserve the right to be a slob!
I reserve the right to be a slob!
TheeBadOne
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I must admit my old bomb is pretty dirty, but everything works on it. 
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Sheesh, I miss the old days and older cars...
In an old sedan..."honest officer I didn't know..."
In a Muscle car, at the sight of blue lights ( or those darn vista cruiser station wagons...recall that moon roof dealie looked liked a light bar...)
pull over quickley, jump out , raise hood "dang accelerator linkage is stuck..."
Never got to the check the trunk stage ....we might just end up talking engines and such...no ticket...forgot why pulled over in the first place...
In an old sedan..."honest officer I didn't know..."
In a Muscle car, at the sight of blue lights ( or those darn vista cruiser station wagons...recall that moon roof dealie looked liked a light bar...)
pull over quickley, jump out , raise hood "dang accelerator linkage is stuck..."
Never got to the check the trunk stage ....we might just end up talking engines and such...no ticket...forgot why pulled over in the first place...
Orthonym
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Oh, to head back somewhere near the general vicinity of the topic:
If I wanted to smuggle some contraband by car, I would tape it up underneath the vehicle of an elderly solid citizen who was going where I wanted the stuff to arrive, without telling her. Art's Grandma?
If I wanted to smuggle some contraband by car, I would tape it up underneath the vehicle of an elderly solid citizen who was going where I wanted the stuff to arrive, without telling her. Art's Grandma?
Parker Dean
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Well I don't know about ALL the time
I've got a nice Mustang for personal transportation. The Cougar is the work beater.In fact I did do a little experiment last fall along those lines.
I had formed the opinion that the Cougar was attracting more attention than it had when I got it a year earlier. About the only thing that changed was that the black paint was hazy and never looked clean, the tires looked grey and the plastic headlamps were yellowed. Basically a well used 150K plus mile car.
So one week (yes it took a week) I polished the paint, rims, headlights etc and it again looked mostly presentable. After I got done I could swear I was attracting less attention from the LEO community.
The proof came a couple of weeks later in Falfurrias. I was Northbound on U.S. 281 inside the Fal city limits and coming up on the intersection for TX 285 where I was going to go right and hop over to U.S. 77 to run into Corpus. Anyway a DPS trooper is Southbound. The speed limit is 40 and my speedo read like 42. As he approaches he hits the brakes and swerves so hard over into the turn lane that the front of his car is aimed at the front of mine and we would have collided if he hadn't stopped in the turn lane. So I knew right there he wanted me. I ignored him and continued on towards my turn which was maybe a hundred yards ahead.
He completes his U-turn and floors it coming up fast on my left like they like to do so they can sit in your blind spot and see if they can rattle you. Well he's approaching on my left a good twenty miles an hour faster than I but now I'm up to my turn lane. I signal well in advance but apparently he doesn't catch it. Just as he pulls up to my blind spot and is hard on the brakes to match my speed I'm entering the right turn lane. Needless to say I'm watching his antics more than the road so I get to see him actually pull right, about halfway into the lane I was just in so that he can follow my right turn, when suddenly he apparently says "Aww, hell with it" and straightens up in the lane he had approached in and goes and sits at the red light to continue straight. I continue the right turn and on home without further incident.
About the only thing that I can think of that would've changed his mind like that is that the car at that time looked like it was cared for instead of a beaten POS and he figured it didn't fit the profile.
But we also know that rental cars generate a lot of LEO interest too, so clean isn't ALL the equation. It can't look like a rental either.
Parker Dean
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Funny you should mention that. A similar idea had occurred to me a couple months back when the dogs at the checkpoints seemed to take a higher interest in my car than usual. Enough so that the Border Patrol searched the car a couple of times which had not happened in five years. I would've just written it off to chance except for the dogs.
Then after a couple of weeks they quit. Odd.
TheeBadOne
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Why try to hide it on someone you don't know? Just hire some senior citizens. It's been done many times. They are subseptible to the $$$ just like anyone else. Dopers know this, and that people are bound to overlook them as mules. A perfect match.
Orthonym
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That's not very nice.
Nor very greedy. I guess it's just my Boy Scoutness, but if I were going to do a bit of smuggling, I wouldn't want to expose innocent parties to arrest and imprisonment. TBO, YOU are the one who suggested corrupting the nice old lady in this here hypothetical case. Just as I've always figured, the
police mind and the criminal mind are really very similar.
Just try and keep those nasty impulses controlled, mmkay?
Nor very greedy. I guess it's just my Boy Scoutness, but if I were going to do a bit of smuggling, I wouldn't want to expose innocent parties to arrest and imprisonment. TBO, YOU are the one who suggested corrupting the nice old lady in this here hypothetical case. Just as I've always figured, the
police mind and the criminal mind are really very similar.
Just try and keep those nasty impulses controlled, mmkay?
"...........but these folks obviously (99%+ chance) don't live there."
You might be surprised. Some people just don't are about cars, or about impressing other people. Some other people don't care about houses or the neighborhood they live in. I think I paid about five grand less for my current pick-up than I did for my house (not counting property and improvements). Actually after taxes and all the extra fees it was about the same. I had an uncle (now dead) that was very wealthy. He lived in a multi-million dollar house, but drove a Ford Taurus. He saw a car as a mode of transportation and that was it. His wife drove a Rolls Silver Shadow and now drives a top of the line beamer. Part of the time I drove that $200 pickup, I made far more than that a day.
As the old saying goes, you can't judge a book by it's cover. Although most people never really punch in to that idea.
You might be surprised. Some people just don't are about cars, or about impressing other people. Some other people don't care about houses or the neighborhood they live in. I think I paid about five grand less for my current pick-up than I did for my house (not counting property and improvements). Actually after taxes and all the extra fees it was about the same. I had an uncle (now dead) that was very wealthy. He lived in a multi-million dollar house, but drove a Ford Taurus. He saw a car as a mode of transportation and that was it. His wife drove a Rolls Silver Shadow and now drives a top of the line beamer. Part of the time I drove that $200 pickup, I made far more than that a day.
As the old saying goes, you can't judge a book by it's cover. Although most people never really punch in to that idea.
I know. I worked w/ a lady who had millions of dollars worth of rental properties and office buildings who drove a 15 year old Camry and lived in one of the nicest 'burbs around where i was living at the time. Still, the car was cared for and looked like it.
MicroBalrog
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Why not?
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