Q. about 9mm Desert Eagle (or really Jericho 941 marked Desert Eagle)

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Hi everyone, I am new here, and new to shooting, thankful for any help you all can give me.
Looking at a gun in the used section at my shooting range.
Here are the details:

9mm marked Desert Eagle (think this is more of the Jericho 941 model really)
Does not say Baby or Jericho on the gun.
It is marked IWI and does not have the Polygonal rifling
One side says "Desert Eagle" Magnum Research Israel
The other I think if I remember right says MN.
It is the all steel model.

I am female and I like the feel of the heavier guns. I do want the all steel model, and have tried similar guns like the CZ75 and do not like it as much.
My favorite revolver is the S&W 686, so I am looking for something similar in weight to use when getting my CHL.

Any thoughts on buying one of these guns, and anything I should be aware of with them when buying used?
 
Welcome to the forum!

Magnum Research likes to rebadge third-party guns to capitalize on the Desert Eagle name recognition. Your Jericho 941 was known as the Baby Eagle; they're now apparently rebadging a Walther P99 with the same name :scrutiny: There's also the little pocket .380, the "Micro Desert Eagle." They'll probably start promoting a line of Desert Eagle blenders sooner or later. :neener:

The 941 is a nice, hefty, solid gun - I've handled several but never had the pleasure of firing one, so that's about as far as I can comment. If you're used to revolvers, the double-action trigger is probably why you prefer it over the CZ-75B. Note that holsters (specifically molded to the 941) will probably be difficult to find since it was always kind of a niche gun. Then again, the same can be said for the CZs (I have a 75B). High Noon would be a good place to start; your gun's in the list.

How much are they asking? The ones I've seen for sale have been in the $400-450 range, sometimes a little less.
 
I can get it for around $470.00 with my platinum membership discount.
Think it is marked at like $499.00 or so.
I think they also have the Jericho 941 model in a used gun for around the same price, wonder if there is any advantage to getting one over the other.
I also was wondering if the fact that it does not have the polygonal rifling would be a reason to pass it up.
I like the Browning Hi Power and the CZ 75 as well, but the Jericho seemed to fit my hands just a bit better.
I have only been shooting for around a month, so I am still trying out some guns, but I decided that my teen daughter needed a sport for school, so shooting would be a good one. (that one was hard to get approved) LOL
She loves the S&W Model 10, and think I will get her one of those for this Christmas.
I am just having a bit harder of a time finding the right semi-automatic for me. I want to qualify with the semi-automatic so that I can carry either one I wish at a later date.
 
I loved the Browning Hi Power the first couple of times I shot it, but then the third & fourth time I rented it, I shot super sloppy, so not sure if it was me or the gun. I keep wondering however, since these (the ones that shoot differently for me each time) are rental guns, if the fact that they are often probably pretty dirty, how much is this really affecting the way I am shooting. I seem to be very consistant with the S&W 686, but not some of the other ones.

Keep in mind, I do not really know much yet, since I am quite new to shooting, so these are not things I know much about yet.
 
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Everyone starts out the same way! :)

I think you've chosen the best possible forum to help you along in your newfound interest. THR is a great place full of knowledgeable people, several of whom I'm sure will be along shortly to tell you about polygonal rifling and all the other stuff I know nothing about.

How a gun feels to you is one of the most important aspects of choosing a defensive weapon - the "best gun" is the one you shoot best with.
 
Thank you so much Tactical Ninja.
I have been browsing the link you gave to me. I have not even thought much about the holster yet.
I am not sure I will carry the Jherico 941 with me yet, or just use it to qualify with then play around with at the range.
I must say though - I am finding I am having a serious love affair with firearms.
While I have my favorites, I really have loved shooting all of them, even the ones that I shoot poorly! It is so much fun trying out new ones a few times a week! I am sure by this time next year, I will have quite a collection!
 
I have an UZI Eagle (apparently, a failed arrangement between mossberg and IMI) but it is the same gun, minus the graphics, as a 9mm Desert Eagle. It's a pretty good shooter. Smooth trigger and a very light single action pull. It is heavy but for just range work that's ideal. Besides the obvious CZ-75 comparisons the "Witness" line of steel pistols would be very similar, as well.
 
I had one of the original Jehrico 941 briefcase kits that came out during th 90's. It had the 9mm and 41AE conversion units in it. you can see a picture of it in this thread (minus the two boxes of IMI ammo that came with it) a couple of posts down.

http://thedeserteagle.yuku.com/topic/3659/t/Desert-Eagle-Pistol-Baby-Eagle-pix.html

As has been said the gun is HEAVY and solidly built. I put plenty of ammo of all different types in it and it performed excellent. The only issue I had was that the decocker/safety lever was smack dab in the middel of the slide serrations for working the slide, so ultimately you had to grab the lever which seemed a bit silly...most other guns with a similar set up give you more room in the serration area. but this did not effect the guns performance and use.

The 41AE is of course a zombie round and the gun when in that configuration had a lot of bark to it.

At the time I got rid of it it was because spare magazines were hard to come by. IMI and later IWI were not big players and thus 9mm mags were not as plentiful as I would have hoped and the 10 round mag requirements did not help. Today mags are more plentiful and should not be an issue like it was in the 90's.
 
My son purchase one in .45 and I must say it is AWSOME. I shoot an old 1911 and the weight is pretty close between the two. The Jehrico is a better choice for Concealed carry Jehrico.jpg

In .45 it is very accurate and the recoil is very manageable.

The upgraded grips are available from
http://www.klamathriverwoodworks.com/page3.php?aa=0&si0=0

I think you would be happy with it. If you want to spend more, you can reduce the weight by going with a Walther P99, my most recent acquisition... but you cannot get the wood grain since the lower half is all composite.

KKKKFL
 
Oh, I do love those grips!
That looks like the rosewood? One of my all time favorite woods ever!

As for the weight, that is what I like most about the gun.
I use a very heavy camera with a Canon heavy prime lens all day, so I am used to handeling a heavy weight, mostly with my right hand.
This gun feels the right weight for me, so I was hopeful that there would be no really bad reviews, so far so good! :)
I am however, becoming just a bit worried about the location of the safety, wonder if I can manage it for the CHL test. I am going to the range tonight, so I will check and see if it is hard for me to reach. Not sure what all is expected of me in the test, I know the shooting sequence, etc... but not sure of how they have you do the set up, meaning when you go out to take the test, I think that you are expected to put the safety on between each group of shots, wonder how this will work out if I have any issues reaching the safety with my thumb. Had not thought about checking that.
 
Not sure whether he ordered Cocobolo or Rosewood. Visit the site and ask "Keno Slim"
he's a great guy to work with. The only down side to the wood grips is that they are not
as thin as the original grips, but they look so stinking good, I'ld be happy. My hand still wraps around well, as the saying goes "Your milage may vary".
Think you will find it a good shooting gun and very comfortable.

KKKKFL
 
For some reason these guns get little attention, and the fact that they're always being sold under a different name doesn't seem to help their reputation.
I have a 9mm Desert Eagle marked IMI (rather than IWI). I love the way the gun fits my hand, the controls (safety and slide stop) work well for me, and while by no means 100% reliable, it has been reliable enough for the club-level competition that I do with it, with maybe some sort of hiccup every 400rds or so. I estimate I have about 4k rounds through mine, with all original parts and springs.
While not as accurate as my 1911, the other night I didn't have any problem rapid firing into an 8" circle at 25yds, so I'd easily call that "good enough"

On another note, if you're in the market for a S&W model 10, you may consider one of these if you're on a budget and don't mind double action only:
http://www.jgsales.com/product_info...d-condition/cPath/16_211_431/products_id/2441
 
I REALLY want a baby eagle in 45. I held one a year ago. And, unlike many non 1911 45's, the grip wasn't super huge.

Charles Daly took over importation of them this year, but then they went bankrupt.

Now, the "new" Baby Eagle is a P99 clone... There have been many closeout sales of the REAL Jericho/baby eagle, and so far I have passed them up. Unfortunately, there are no vendors to warranty or fix the gun at the moment, since there is no real importer. If someone else pics up importation of the gun and supplies warranty work and parts, I will definitely buy one myself. I like the appearance more than I do of the CZ75.
 
I think, (I may not be right) that you can send them to the Magnum Research group for repair if needed. I did not get a warranty, but as long as I can get it repaired if needed, I am good with paying if required.

Took it apart (first time every doing this with a semi-automatic) and cleaned and lubricated it. All parts in this gun look practically brand new.

Took it apart at the gun counter prior to purchase as well, wanted to have a look inside.
So far, looks like a really sweet gun, but I will know more on Monday when I get a chance to shoot it.
 
They are great, accurate guns. I'm sure you will be pleased with it.
I've had one for awhile and have never had a problem with it. It shoots every kind of ammo well and is a gun that will still be working well long after I'm not.
A security guard at work keeps wanting to buy it off me, but he hasn't offered me enough to part with it.
 
think, (I may not be right) that you can send them to the Magnum Research group for repair if needed.
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I would want to verify this. This is pretty much what is keeping me from buying on right now. If you do some google searches - you will fine a few complaints, just like you will find complaints of ANY gun. Anyway, my point is that I HAVE had problems with BRAND NEW guns before. Knowing that I am paying for a brand new gun, that has NO warranty or company to fix it if I have a problem is a bit of an issue for me.

If not for that, I'd have bought one already. I hope someone else takes over the contract and starts to reimport them.
 
Very nice guns. I am sure you will enjoy it. I almost bought one in .41 action express last year. Wish I had sometimes.
 
Very nice! If you need parts you can call magnum research they still have some laying around from when they imported them. I would imagine that you could call MR and have them do repairs should you need them since they imported it. The gun is a very robust one with very sturdy construction. I don't think you'll have much trouble with parts breaking. I had a bit of bad luck and my extractor broke fairly early, but this is a very easy fix and cheap as well.

If you want to get more specific information or at least know of other people who own these you can go to www.941forum.com they have a Jericho specific section that is very useful.


If not for that, I'd have bought one already. I hope someone else takes over the contract and starts to reimport them.
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There is talk that now that Kahr has bot MR, they are going to be re-importing them in 2011 and they're going to be calling it the baby-eagle II:uhoh: .
 
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