Q. about BC for Zak Smith and others with experience

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I have a question regarding the accuracy of the BC published by most manufactures for their bullets.

It is my understanding that the original drag model for calculating coefficient of form was intended to calculate the trajectory or semi-spitzer flat based artillery shells. It is also my understanding that other drag models exist to more accurately calculate the trajectory of more modern, streamlined match bullets. However, as far as I know, these drag models are not the industry standard used by manufactures.

Is there an industry standard, or are all of these guys using different methods to arrive at these numbers?

It is also my understanding that BC is affected by velocity and air density.

So how accurate are the BC numbers published by these manufactures? I realize they are probably close enough to get you on target at most hunting distances, but most hunting distances are close enough that BC doesn't matter anyways.
Do companies like Sierra and Berger use appropriate drag models when estimating the BC of their long range match bullets? If not, how accurate and applicable are these numbers, and how much difference does it make once we start talking some range, say beyond 500 yards?
In your experience, if you plug the factory estimated BC and appropriate environmental data into an external ballistics calculator, is the presented data usually accurate enough to be functional? If not, do you mess around with drag models? If so, why do other drag models even exist?
 
I'm not Zak but until he or Bart comes along...

It is my understanding that commercial bullets are rated for BC on the G1 drag function. It does not cover modern spitzers very well, especially the boattails used for long range. Which is why Sierra shows varying BC by velocity range, to fair the curve and give calculations closer to shooting. Everybody else just gives the high BC determined near muzzle velocity.

You would get better results with the G7 and G8 drag functions but they do not yeild as high a number to tabluate in advertising copy. So you just have to go with the figures they supply. Not perfect but good enough to put you on the paper and let you adjust into the bullseye.
 
I've also heard that some bullets have a higher BC after being fired for some reason...I think I heard somewhere the 6.5mm or .284" I do not know if this is true. Maybe Zak or Bart will chime in on this.
 
The bulletin link posted by Z pretty much explaines it. Berger tests their bullets for BC over 600 yards measuring the bullet flight sonically. That information is then compaired to a custom program written by Brian Litz. Below are a few numbers that show the differance between G1, G7 and G1 Banded profiles. As you can see the differance is negligible.

.243 115 grain Berger VLD
G1 BC = 0.551 lb/in^2 (averaged from 3000 fps to 1500 fps)
G7 BC = 0.282 lb/in^2 (averaged from 3000 fps to 1500 fps)
Standard (ICAO) sea level conditions (59 degrees F, 29.92 inHg, 0% RH)
Zero range = 100 yards
2950 fps muzzle velocity

Yards----G1(ave)drop----G7(ave)drop----G1(banded)drop----
300----------9.18"-------------9.12"--------------9.0
600---------68.89"------------68.35"-------------67.8
900--------208.34"-----------206.08"------------204.7
1200-------471.63"-----------466.64"------------465.0
 
For fun, sometime try entering all Sierra's BC values into your program and run the data for 1000 yards, and then enter roughly the average BC value for its velocity over that range and run the numbers again. They should be very, very close, so close that you can just use one BC value. To answer the other part of the question, BC values are normally normalized to either Metro or ICAO standard conditions (temp/pressure/alt).

Normally published BC values are very close and actual shooting drop values will be very, very close. On numerous occasions I have taken a new load, chrono'd and zeroed it at 100, printed out the data, and made first round hits to 600-900.
 
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