Quality of Tapco T28 Scop and STANAG mounts for FAL?

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What do y'all think about the quality of the TAPCO T28 4X28mm Scope and STANAG mount for the FAL?

Thinking of getting one as my old eyballs don't do so well with irons anymore. Slowly having to add scopes or Red Dot sights to any rifle I want to hit anything with.

--wally.

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I was tempted too. After doing some searching and reading I decided against it.

There is a real shortage of quality mid priced compact scopes with Mil Dot or other tacticle type reticles and BDC's.
 
What made you decide against it?

I didn't get any hits from searching FAL Files Forums for "TAPCO T28 Scope", but maybe one has to register for search to work?

I don't need BDC, mildot reticles are nice, but also not a requirement as I don't see my CAI L1A1 "parts gun" as a solution for any real long range work. Mine's reliable
and fun to shoot but certainly its no tack driver needing a high end scope -- I just need to have something I can see to align with the target :)

--wally.
 
I read somewhere that the T28's kept losing their zero. Plastic internals seem to do that easier than brass, and I think the T28's have plastic internals. I couldn't find much talk about them though, so maybe it's simply a case of hearing a little negative and not hearing the positive.

I thought it was either on the FAL files or http://www.gunboards.com/ that I read the negative. No wait, might have been http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/ Sorry, can't exactly remember.

I've heard some good things about the Burris compact scopes, like this one for $179 (although I've never owned a Burris scope)

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/200311/burris_4x20_mini_compact_rifle_scope.htm
 
There's a thread running on AR15.com about a soldier in Iraq that's been using one for several months.
He mentions some minor problems, but overall he liked the scope.
Clearview investments has them for $48 delivered.

After the soldier posted his review, 20 or 30 guys said they had ordered from Clearview.
 
There's a thread running on AR15.com about a soldier in Iraq that's been using one for several months.

That thread on ARFcom refers to the Tapco T168 which is a different scope than the T28.
 
Thanks for the info.

A fellow at the range had an AR10 with a Busnell RedDot with four selectable reticles. He let me shoot it I liked it. Both the sight and the AR10 :)

For about $80 I think this is what I'll get.

Now is the Tapco FAL mount for $40 any good, or do I need to spring $70 for the one from DSA? They look identical from the photos I can find on their respective sites.

TIA,
--wally.
 
I put one of the TAPCO T-28 scopes on an airsoft gun some months back. Because it was cheap enough for that duty and I had the extra cash. Also been on real guns, but airsoft means I've gotten it rained on, dropped it, used it for 8 hours at a time etc. Seems to be as sturdy as any chinese crap thing is gonna be. Very bright optics. No overt glare, etc. so the coatings seem to work as advertized. Also doesn't seem to accumulate rain, like the way the B&L rainguard does or something. I haven't done a controlled test, but last weekend it was misting like all day, and never did the lenses get wet. No idea why.

Illumination is not quite bright enough to BAC in daylight, which was my original hope, but its pretty nice. Works indoors, etc. where ranges are close enough the parallax issues are moot anyway. Works well at dusk and so on, and has enough adjustment for work in total darkness. I have no NODs (if I did, I wouldn't buy $99 riflescopes). The first half of the brightness range is pretty much useless, so swing straight past it. Reticle on mine is flawed. Seems to be etched in glass, but the template was screwed up on my day. Not a lot, but a fuzzy bit or two, and this extra line sorta thing. Not hard to shoot with.

No idea what any of the lines mean. I presume they subtend to something or other, but no instruction as to what, and I am dedicated enough to mildot for more serious work to bother drawing lines on paper and doing the math.

Mostly made of soft metals. Aluminum, zinc, etc. Exposed circuit boards, so presumably will go tits up sometime when I drop it in a creek or stand in the rain too long. I guess there is an O-ring though. Solid click for off. Don't expect to remove the light source much, as its very tight.

The STANAG is unusable directly off most guns. Get a cheap (I paid like $12) STANAG to Pic rail converter and then you can mount it anywhere. The built-in rails are so low you will probably need the riser anyway. If you had money to burn you could get a throw lever rail to rail converter.

I put it onto an ARMS mount on a FAL with no trouble (pic rail, pricey but the only way to go). Height worked okay. Not unreasonably tall. Did NOT work on the HK/Swan throw lever base. Includes STANAG components, but the rear tail of the scope rail thingy bumps into the rear sight cylinder. Seems that it would do this even if you cut some off, so I can't tell what that's about, however.

Includes two pairs of screws, one longer than the other. STANAG mounts slight tightly into grooves, but are then screwed down from underneath. You all knew that, right? If you have a funny mount, like the wobbly, stringing-ass FN STANAG cover, you will need a right angle screwdriver, but they even include that. Believe it, its angle driver, not a stub of extra metal that just fell into the box. Use a GOOD screwdriver and be careful. The screws look soft also and have shallow notches.

The rubber covers work great. Never had one open in transit or close in action. They are tight, but I spun mine to my 4:00 position, so they hang open. Brightness is on the left, hence, they open right. You might have ejection problems with this depending on your mounting, so visualize before your bolt carrier eats one.

Worth $99.
 
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As to the mounts, I have much less personal experience, but have two points:

1) They seem mostly ill-designed. As one example, the riser they sell for AR-15s seems way too high. There is no reason for this.

2) I sorta don't trust them. For a brief while (I presume because people like myself wrote them letters and they got a bad rep on boards) they sold an airsoft version of the HK/Swan claw mount. Great price, but not for a cast zinc item, sized to fit the slightly larger airsoft receiver. Problems. I'm just glad nothing flew off and poked a permanent hole in anyone's head or eye.

Now, I do have lots of Tapco stuff on my guns, in places where I have to rely on it, and I enjoy all their products. Just not so much the scope mounts.
 
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