Queen Anne .50 Caliber Flintlock Smoothbore

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Ok, So I need imput here.
I don't have a muzzeloader pistol YET. My wife wants to know if I want one.

DUH, yes.

Ok, so now which one? I saw the Queen Anne .50 flintlock Smoothbore on http://www.cherrys.com/ped_pist.htm

site. I think it might be nice. Any opinions are greatly welcome.

I do want flint. Not ready to do percussion yet. Maybee the next one.

Please tell me if this would be a good choice for a starter pistol. Or should I get like a Traditions Trapper?

Thanks. Any and all imput welcome because I really don't know anything about the pistols. Except what I read here.
 
Before I say anything else, I encourage you to treasure your wife above all else! What a gem she is!:):):):):)

The first question we need answered is, do you want a shooter or a non-shooter? Secondly, what is your level of muzzle loading experience? Thirdly, to what purpose will it be put? Do you want a functional wall hanger, a target pistol, a plinker, or a hunting pistol?

If your M/L experience is limited, it might be less frustrating for you to start with percussion to gain some experience, then progress to a flintlock. If you already have a good amount of experience, by all means get the flinter.

I have no personal experience with Cherry's products but others here will give you the benefit of their knowledge.

If you can give us additional information about your intended use and personal preferences, we can be of more help.

Believe me, we will be more than happy to help you spend your money!:D
 
Of those pictured,the Kentucky Pistol in Flint for $250.00 seems to be the real bargain.And, it has a ramrod.The Queen Anne would be cool for a pirate persona,though. Are ye a sea farin' lad,or a lean frontiersman?
 
Ok, Well, since the wifey is treasured, And a hunter, and a fly fisherwoman,
And drives a truck and rides horses, and...... (you get the picture)

I would like a target/ fun pistol. I have a TC Renegade 50 that I got last year and I am having a grand time at the range with.

basicly I just want a cool looking pistol that I can also take to the range just for fun. No compations. Just messin around.

I was wondering about the ram rod part. Can someone school me on that?
 
I was wondering about the ram rod part. Can someone school me on that?
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For your purposes you could use something as simple as a 3/8" diameter wood dowel (for a .50-caliber bore) from the hardware store. Cut it about 4" longer than the barrel length to allow you a sufficient area to grasp while ramming down a pached ball, or you can cut it a bit shorter and affix a 1-1/2" diameter wood ball to the end to make things easier on your hand. Slot the end about 2" to hold a patch for cleaning, or make another rod for that purpose. You can make the rod as plain or as fancy as you wish.

Given your planned use, the Queen Anne pistol might be right up your alley. It IS a good lookin' pistol!:D

You didn't say whether or not you have experience with flinters. If you don't, it would be to your benefit to contact someone in your area who does. They will probably be happy to show you the basics of flint selection and mounting, aligning, knapping, cleaning, etc.

Good luck.
 
Queen Anne Pistols

It is all personal opinion - I had a pair of the Pedersoli, Queen Annes about 20 years ago. They were neat guns as far as looks, and mine went boom OK. However, they are smooth bore and do not have sights - front or rear. If I wanted a pistol to target shoot or hunt with (back up to rifle), it would not be the Queen Anne. The Pedersoli Kentucky Pistol in Flintlock is a tack driver as far as accuracy and is only slightly higher at Cherrys.

Dixie Gun Works has the Pedersoli Kentucky Pistol .50 in flintlock kit for $275.00 http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=5928

I did a Pedersoli Brown Bess with Birchwood Casey Plum Brown a couple of years ago - Started off with a good polish prep on the barrel, used a butane torch and after 15 coats (0000 steel wool between applications) I had a beautiful deep burgandy brown finish you can't buy in a finished gun.

DGW probably has some Christmas sales going and would be worth a call 731 885 0700
 
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I have a Pedersoli .54 Kentucky Flintlock and a Lyman Plains Pistol (percussion .54). The Flintlock is elegant, pretty reliable, Semi accurate and just plain classy. The Lyman is powerful, accurate and reliable. Both are .54s. The Pedi draws the line at 35 gr fff (Must Be Real BP and patched balls are recommended). The Lyman is a mule. If it were a truck it would be a Dodge Ram Turbo Diesel. I have driven a 225 gr patched ball at 1000 fps. With conicals the Lyman gets real snorty at 50- 60 grains of 777 fff.

You really need to decide what you want to do with the pistol and then go for it. The only suggestion I would make is get a kit and build your own. It is a very rewarding experience and You will bond better with your gun that way.

Good Luck and God Bless,

Higene
 
Thanks for the advice.

I do have some flint expirence as my Renegede is a flint. Most of the time it goes boom. :)

I am thinking that maybee I shouldn't get the queen anne as a first pistol due to I know I am going to be upset with the no sights and smooth bore parts.

I know I will be taking it to the range and I get bummed when i cant hit anything.

so thanks again, Looks like the Pedersoli Kentucky Pistol .50 in flintlock might be the choice.

Christmas is comin!
 
I actually have both, the Queen Anne Kentucky, both in flint.

Yes you can use shot in the Queen as it's a smoothie (hint hint). It is also easier to clean up and yes that's what black beard is said to have used and his favorite. The down side to the Queen is the frizzen and the touch hole. The hole is not large enough and many have put a liner in place to fix that problem. However with mine I just drilled it out larger and that fixed it for me. The frizzen on many have been known not to spark that well and may need to have better treatment done to them. It also has no formal sights which makes it not that accurate on paper but still an overall fun gun.
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The Kentucky pistol I have is in flint, 54 caliber and I now wish I had it in 45 or 50 caliber instead. It is a mighty fine pistol indeed and quite good at accuracy. I really can't say much bad about the pistol at all, have had good spark rate with it as well. The sparks could be a tad better tho but I have yet to have a misfire.

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Thanks Blacknet.

Now I really really dont know which one to get. Sounds like you like them both equally.

:)

The misses and I spoke about it yesterday, She said "Just pick which one you want, 'cause I want a pistol for home defense." (she means a 9mm or 38)

OH I am so Glad I found her!

;)
 
Hey BLACKNET

Could you do me, and other's, a favor and Take a close up pic of your flint resting on the frissen. With the frissen closed. Just so I/we can see exactly how yours is stiking the frissen.

You said that you havn't had a misfire and that would be a good canidate for a pic so we can ensure that we set our flints properly.
 
Why in the world are you even THINKING of a flintlock pistol for accuracy? These were for "accuracy" at about 10 feet!
Home security? I've NEVER found a flintlock that would fire even 85% of the time.
That said, I used to own a "brace" of Queen Anns and had more people drooling over them than you could shake a stick at.
I would say ANY flintlock would be only for 6 - 8 ft. target shooting, but MAN What a pirate pistol!
 
Ditto the reliability on the positive side. My flintlocks have always been consistent and as accurate as any cap lock. It does take a little getting used too. Not over charging the pan and using good English flints are starters.

Flintlocks are more unforgiving than a cap lock. You usually get what you pay for in terms of quality. Buy cheap and chances are you won't be happy with it. But a good lock, properly set up and charged, using good flints, is a pretty reliable and accurate firearm.


I would say ANY flintlock would be only for 6 - 8 ft. target shooting - Cap'n Billy
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I am a bit curious, he's having trouble hitting the target beyond the 2 to 3 yard line???
 
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Why in the world are you even THINKING of a flintlock pistol for accuracy? These were for "accuracy" at about 10 feet!
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Cap'n Billy, you may have accidentally kicked over a beehive there, man. I personally know a couple or three fellows who would take serious (but good-hearted) exception to that statement.:D
 
Oh dear...what HAVE I done!

Even the guy that wrote those "fired" statements, can find some of them a bit of a stretch at reading them after a time.

But My pair of QAs (WITH good English flints) would NOT spark (I'll stretch it here) for more than 90% of the time. Reading about carefully measuring frizen pan loads, might DEFINITELY have had something to do with that.

My flints DID always spark, but sometimes NOT into the pan...had to do some tweaking to correct that.

Do not fear beehives, their end result is honey!
 
Like PRM said, You usually get what you pay for in terms of quality.
A lot of times flintlocks need to be modified, adjusted, and tuned to make them work properly. But a lock that is well made to begin with, and is tuned properly, will spark every time and the ignition will be just as fast as a cap lock. After tuning my lock, the ignition is instantaneous, and the only misfires I have had were caused when the flint broke, or when moisture got in the pan. And it doesn't care how much powder I dump in the pan.
 
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