Question about a Coach Gun Safety

[heavyshooter]

Nearly two years ago I purchased a used (on consignment) Remington Spartan Coach Gun with exposed hammers. I wanted the exposed hammers because I intended for it to be used as a backup Home Defense gun and I wanted to load it and forget it (I wanted no concern about compressed springs). When I inspected it, it looked almost new but the tag said that the left hammer did not strike with enough force to fire. I was not concerned about this because I could just take it to my smith and he would repair it for me. I took it to my smith and he told me that someone had replaced lots of parts on the left side and, after quite a bit of time and effort, he was unable to repair it. We decided to send it to the factory (I believe it went to Baikal) and nearly two years later they let us know that they were unable to repair it. They offered to send me a new one (free of charge) but it would not have exposed hammers. Considering I purchased the previous one used, and at a good price, I took them up on it. But after I received the gun I noticed something that I had never seen before. The gun cocks when you open and close it (I know that is normal), but the cocking action also activates the safety. Every time I load it I have to deactivate the safety before I can fire. I am not very familiar with coach guns, but this is the first time I have ever seen this. Is it common? And can I deactivate this function?

Heavy

 

[Lorenzo Rojo]

The is the way that all the internal hammer coach guns I've seen operate.

 

[ishida]

It's how my Fox (Savage) BSE Model H does it.

 

[heavyshooter]

Is this a built in safety feature that is unnecessary for exposed hammer coach guns?

 

[RyanM]

Ouch, that's a long time to wait.

Anyway, that's a "feature" that's common to the newer doubles. It's basically like the giant "WARNING READ THE MANUAL BECAUSE WE THINK YOU'RE A MORON" safety billboards. It's there to make the lawyers happy.

Your gunsmith should be able to disable the auto-safety. That's what I would do, if I didn't think I could figure out how to disable it myself.

 

[oneounceload]

Setting the auto safety upon opening and closing the action is typical for SxS and O/U guns that are NOT target guns. Target guns typically have a manual safety. That being said, there are exceptions - SKB field guns have a manual safety. Personally, I prefer manual safeties or none at all - my guns are never loaded unless I am ready to fire - whether on the sporting course or in the field

 

[Lorenzo Rojo]

You can find the information you need to disable the safety on the internet. I disabled mine; it is very easy to do.

 

[UKShooter]

Ive never seen that before. It sounds annoying. All the OU and SBS I've owned were ready to fire once they were closed up. They were all either sporting guns or old though..

 

[DPris]

It's very common across several brands.
Denis

 

[oneounceload]

As I said, FIELD guns, even older ones from the 20 and later, have auto safeties so that while walking with a loaded gun you could put the safety on. (Not that mechanical safeties are perfect).

While they can be disabled, many smiths do not like to do that due to current liability laws

 

[MachIVshooter]

Is it common?

Yes.

And can I deactivate this function?

Yes.

There's some version of rod or bar or ? that actuates the safety when the breech is opened. Just remove that piece. I did on my New Haven. It's an internal hammer gun, but I still didn't want the safety on unless I engage it.