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Question about buying a gun on Gunbroker

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by UKWildcatFan, Mar 1, 2015.

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  1. UKWildcatFan

    UKWildcatFan Member

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    When I "Buy Now," is the ad immediately removed from the list? I'm just wondering that if not more than one person can buy it.
     
  2. BadgerT

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    Depends. Sometimes a seller will have several in inventory.
     
  3. DammitBoy

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    Right under the "buy now" icon is a listing for quantity available. If it is an auction for multiple items it will be shown there.
     
  4. UKWildcatFan

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    Quantity is 1.

    Oh, and is there any other potential drama with buying on a Sunday?
     
  5. Walkalong

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    No, just call them and arrange payment and let them know your FFL person will contact them tomorrow. They generally have plenty of experience and understand.
     
  6. UKWildcatFan

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    So I shouldn't do the checkout online, and just wait to call them in the morning?
     
  7. kimberkid

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    If on-line checkout is available go ahead and use it ... IIRC there is a place for notes, you can tell your seller who your FFL is and that they will contact them the next business day ... I've made several purchases without direct contact with the seller and everything was smooth and fast.
     
  8. 460Shooter

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    I use the checkout when possible. I prefer to have documentation with GB, though it really isn't necessary. My LGS gave me a copy of their FFL, which I scanned and now just email to whomever I buy a gun from. It's worked great for me so far.
     
  9. UKWildcatFan

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    Well, I just checked out under "Buy Now." I'm in St. Louis metro, and the dealer is in Illinois. No sales tax showed. Is that right? I let them know my FFL. I just can't wait to get it in my hands.
     
  10. WVsig

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    Yes that should be correct. No sales tax unless you are in the same state as the seller.

    On Monday contact the seller. Tell them the name of your FFL and that he/she will be emailing their paperwork over ASAP. Tell your FFL to email it over with your gunbroker auction # and your name so the seller can quickly match up your paperwork to your gun/auction.

    Enjoy!!!! What did you buy?
     
  11. UKWildcatFan

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    My dream gun: Colt Gold Cup Series 70. Blued. I won't be sleeping tonight. Much like last night. I can't believe it just happened.
     
  12. 460Shooter

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    The internet really has made firearms purchasing fun. You find stuff you'd never see in your local shop.

    Last year I found my grail rifle. It's a Ruger No. 1 chambered in S&W 460 Magnum. I never would have found one otherwise since they are out of production.

    Congrats on your purchase. Be advised, Gunbroker becomes very addictive after your first purchase and the realization of how easy it is to use when dealing with a good seller.
     
  13. mgkdrgn

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    Well, congrats on loosing your On-line sales virginity! ;-)

    GunBroker can be a GREAT place to buy ... but like anywhere else you do have to be careful.

    Check the sellers feedback. You are a LOT less likely to be screwed by someone that is A+(435) than B(30) or NR.

    Make sure you READ the ad, and ask questions if you are unsure about anything. Watch out (and ask about) "charges" that are not specified (like shipping charges).

    Paying by CC will offer you additional protection, but may also cost you some. Why? Because the CC company charges 3% plus a monthly and a per transaction fee to the seller. Margins on GB are razor thin to begin with, not many can give up 3%+ and stay in business.
     
  14. aladdin

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    Another thing to remember is that you do not own the gun until you fill out the transfer paper work at your local ffl. Inspect the gun thoroughly before you do the paper work. If you see something you do not like send it back.
     
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    Unless the state is one where no sales tax is collected on anything, there is this pesky thing called a "use tax" which happens to be the same amount and is SUPPOSED to be remitted by someone buying something from out of state.

    Whether the OP does or not is his business, but I suspect with the current FCC rules and regs about to change, this point may be moot anyway.

     
  16. Twiki357

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    I’m not trying to hijack this thread, but I would like to expand it with a question related to delivering FFL’s for GunBroker sales.

    All sellers want a copy of the delivering FFL’s license, apparently even private party sellers. I have not been able to find a specific legal requirement for the seller to retain a copy. Only that the gun must be shipped to an FFL. Is the copy just a CYA for the seller to prove that he/she shipped to an FFL or is there a specific requirement that I have been unable to locate?

    Secondly, if the buyers FFL is listed in GunBrokers “Find an FFL” section, why are the copies required to be sent to the seller?
     
  17. 460Shooter

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    Gun sales that cross state lines and are for guns made in or after 1898 (I think)must go through a FFL holder. It is federal law. A background check needs to be done for the recipient of the gun, hence the dealer's role in things. If the gun is older than 1898, a curio and relic license is enough.

    If you send a gun to a manufacturer for repair and you are the original owner, they know you are already the legal owner, so when they ship it back, it goes straight to your house.

    So in short, a non FFL holder can send a gun to an FFL holder in your state, and that's fine. Your FFL holder will handle the transfer for a fee. But it is illegal to send a gun to someone in a different state as a FFL or a private seller who doesn't have a dealers license.
     
  18. Rock185

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    Twiki, I think I understand your question, so I'll venture a response. Modern non C&R firearms can only be shipped to FFLs. The FFLs need to be able to document in their bound book who the firearm came from, and it's disposition/who it was transferred to. They have to have a signed copy of a valid FFL before they can ship. In olden days, this had to be actually signed in ink and mailed. Faxed and emailed copies were not acceptable. The fact that Gun Broker may list FFLs as a convenience to potential buyers does not satisfy this requirement. If an FFL will receive guns from a non FFL, they will usually require the seller include a copy of their drivers license to document in their bound book where the gun they received came from. A couple of years ago,I spoke with a local FFL about receiving a gun from non FFL, and he acted like I was trying to involve him in some kind of nefarious felony scheme. I have seen some of the situations non FFLs have put FFLs in, and I can understand legitimate FFLs being very cautious in documenting transactions....ymmv
     
  19. mgkdrgn

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    A shipping FFL MUST receive a signed copy of the of the receiving FFL's license before they can ship. They need that to verify that the receiver -is- in fact an FFL. They do not have to retain that license copy. (yes, stupid I know, but nobody ever said ATF rules were written by geniuses)

    A private individual does not have to get the license copy, and in fact the ATF discourages FFL's from sending license copies to private parties (I suppose to prevent forgeries). A private individual can use FFL EZ check to see if the person they are shipping to is an FFL. (but an FFL can not ... like I said, they ain't geniuses)

    Basically because there is no real control (from the Feds perspective) as to how accurate that list is, or how often it is updated.
     
  20. 460Shooter

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    That's true. Some FFL holders will only accept a gun from another FFL holder, just for their own protection.
     
  21. Twiki357

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    Thank you all for your responses. I guess what was frustrating me is that FFLs are listed on GunBrokers website and the FFL EZ check is available to verify that it’s current and in good standing, then why all the paperwork going back and forth. I guess mgkdrgn nailed it “nobody ever said ATF rules were written by geniuses.”

    Thanks all.
     
  22. Sheepdog1968

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    CA (not relevant in this thread) was kind enough to make FFL dealers collect CA sales taxes on firearms purchased out of state. How kind of CA.
     
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